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Obama votes 'present' on new economic rescue plan for now

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  1. MrSparkle

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    Obama votes 'present' on new economic rescue plan for now | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times
    Does this come as a shock to anyone? Obama, make a decision, HA!

    Wait, I know what the problem is. The answer was not on his teleprompter. He'll get back to us as soon as it's cue'ed.

    I like this quote:
    And then this one:
    ROFL, he was for specific details before he was against them. Just another example of who this man really is. All talk, no substance. Maybe Michelle will tell him what his policy is and have it added to his teleprompter rotation.

    [​IMG]
    Look sad and say DOH Barack.
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    Obama loves voting present ... body is present and brain is absent.
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    Just because McCain isn't an economic expert the media seems to be placing Obama as the expert on the economy out of this matchup; I have no idea why, he has no more expertise on the economy than McCain does.
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    ahh, but there in lies the rub. McCain, while not an expert is not afraid to take a stance, make a decision. Obama seems to want to have every last detail and the opinions of almost everyone before he will make one. Seems to want to please everyone, you can't.

    Obama is a smart man, maybe to smart. You don't have to be a genius to be a great leader.


    Between these two clowns I'll take McCain.
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    Waiting for others to tell you want to think makes you too smart ? To quote Obama "Uhhhh" OK. :confused:
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    Intelligence has little to do with being able to make a decision.


    BTW, I hate you. You are making me defend him and I won't do it. I'll not play your reindeer games.









    well played sir, well played
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    He is not the actual president .....why blame him about the rescue plan? HE 'S NOT SHOWING HIS CARDS YET.
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    ROFL, nice. I think I hurt myself laughing...not showing his cards, classic.
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    From what I read this morning McCain is not making a stance either, otoh why make a stance if you have not seen the details of the bill in question?? Wouldn't an intelligent candidate, want the details before he offered a final position....
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    So far, McCain has said that the fundamentals of our economy are strong and then backtracked, that our healthcare system should be modeled after out banking system and then backtracked, advocated deregulation for years and is now complaining tht Wall Street has "reckless management and a casino culture"; says that he would fire the SEC chief should be fired and finds that the president can't do that.

    McCain is making an ***** of himself:

    McCain's financial fall guy; foresight or folly? | Reuters

    As Obama said, McCain is panicking, while Obama is taking a few days to examine the issue.

    With threads like this, no wonder Republicans have delivered us to this economic crisis. "React, then think," seems to be the Republican creed.

    So far, McCain seems to be once again allying himself with Bush by calling for a bailout without making specific demands for oversight, more proof that McCain is no maverick.
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    Sir , open your ears real good buddy,:
    Obama/McCain are relatively neutral on these issues because they want to stay away from all this crap Bush started/continued.
    The more they get into it, the more it may impact their chances in taking over the white house.
    The only politician who could possibly stand up to this thing is Kennedy.
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    I've been trying to figure out why myself. Obama hasn't even run a lemonade stand. Niether of these guys knows much about economics.
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    The bastard better show his cards if he wants to be president

    Barry speech without promter "uhh, duhh doo, doo, uhh, duhh, uhh"

    Standing ovation from the groupies.

    Messiah over there without his telepromter---------------------->:bricks:
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    IF the fundamentls of the economy weren't strong, no way we endure the increased energy cost and the fallout from the subprime crisis without a depression setting in....

    Bo has nothing beyond raising taxes and wet dreams alout alternative energy replacing oil in 19 years w/o nuke energy..IOW he is totally clueless.
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    Obama made several reasoned demands:

    Obama: No 'blank check' for Wall Street - First Read - msnbc.com

    He also took his time and did not lash out call for firings and blaming Wall Street greed. Face it, McCain made a fool of himself. He made at least 3 or 4. Yeah, you might not agree with Obama, but at least he's approaching the problem in a responsible manner.
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    How bout blaming the dems for incompetence, for the CRA changes in 1997 for appointing BO's buddies Johnson and Raines to run Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and creating the subprime mess, Oh wait Raines and Johnson are his financial advisors. How bout blaming B Frank and C Dodd for blocking reforms suggested by Bush in 2002 and McCain in 2005..
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    The fundamentals of our economy are not nor have they been strong for long time PF13.

    Read this article

    ALMOST ARMAGEDDON
    MARKETS WERE 500 TRADES FROM A MELTDOWN

    "The market was 500 trades away from Armageddon on Thursday, traders inside two large custodial banks tell The Post.

    Had the Treasury and Fed not quickly stepped into the fray that morning with a quick $105 billion injection of liquidity, the Dow could have collapsed to the 8,300-level - a 22 percent decline! - while the clang of the opening bell was still echoing around the cavernous exchange floor."


    ALMOST ARMAGEDDON - New York Post

    And even if this plan goes through, we'll have a long way to go before the fundamentals are strong again. Watch what happens to the stock market between now and the end of this year. I think you'll be shocked.
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    Alright!! I agree with both of you!;)
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    You know the more you righties post the more obvious it becomes that you don't have a substantive objection to Obama. I have yet, in the hundreds of hysterial rantings by righties, found any post that contained actual facts to support the delusional comments. Rather you create a thread containing a blog opinion. Its laughable, and actually quite complimentary to Obama, that you're so incapable of finding anything factual to use against him that you have to resort to using blog opinions to support your irrational objections to Obama. Which, by the way, strongly implies that your objection to Obama isn't about policy but rather about personal attributes. Again, the forum rules don't allow me to connect the dots for you so you'll have to solve the riddle. :rofl:


    By the way, please tell me exactly what McCain's detailed policy plan is to deal with the financial crisis. I know he proposed adding an agency to deal with future problems (sounds kinda like what the righties like to call "socialist" to me, but McCain is a white Republican so of course those standards don't apply to him). I can't say I recall his response being any different from Obama's - heck, the author of the blog even said the same but I guess you didn't read that far down. :rolleyes:

    Oh, by the way....welcome to the forum - I imagine you'll quite enjoy the daily righty circle jerks. :rocker:
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    One of his only jobs in private enterprise was working at a Baskin-Robbins ... and he said he "hated it".... :rolleyes:

    Does Barack even know what it means to work for a living?? Community organizer, paid legislator, USSenate for 2 years (while voting "present" about half of the time) ..... too many questions swirl around this young man... too many.

    No wonder Michelle looks so pissed off all the time: she's the only one in that family who's ever had a half-way serious job until now. Obama needs to get a real job for a few years, then come back and apply again. Lack of self-confidence based upon inexperience produces "Present" votes; he cannot take a stand, "Yea" or "Nay", because he just has no idea. Serious flaw.

    Obama: "Hey, what should we do about the Russian invasion of Georgia???"

    Advisor: "Dunno. Ask Putin??"

    Obama: "What about the Wall Street melt-down??"

    Advisor: ".... uh-h-h, .... Bill Clinton??? I mean, he was president when they began relaxing the credit rules .... "

    :nono:


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