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  1. NEPatriot

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/politics/01obama.text.html?pagewanted=3

    Senate closes in on 'cash-for-clunkers' vote | detnews.com | The Detroit News

    Obama is a con artist. It's another way for us to buy his "government motors' cars.
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    #15 Jersey

    Actually, I'm in the market for a new vehicle, and one reason for holding off is this $4500 incentive. It isn't clear yet whether the vehicle has to be brand new. For a second car I'm looking at the Prius. How's that work for you NE?
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    2 things for you to keep in mind:

    1- What does Obama want in return when he gives you 4500 dollars? I would like to know if he has any hidden agenda. Please SPELL EVERYTHING OUT, OBAMA. I don't TRUST YOU.

    2- Does it mean that this 'incentive' is available if you BUY his 'GM' car?

    Until these questions are 'answered', Obama is a fcking con artist.
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    he won't be able to get away with subsidizing GM cars.............even if he does, unless the GM vehicles improve, it won't matter
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    I want to know what we have to give Obama BEFORE he gives us 4500 dollars.
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    My 1993 Pick Up with over 170K miles.. great truck, but has outlived its usefulness...

    This program has been very effective in Europe...
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    #75 Jersey

    Just curious.
    How has your '93 outlived its usefulness? My '89 is a far more reliable truck than my '04. Less time in the shop, better mpg, never fails to start even in the coldest weather, and I can fix it myself. Every single part is replaceable in my driveway.
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    It is broken down more than it runs, right now needs a starter ( which is a pain in the ass to replace) , new fans, windshield wiper motor, good tune up, oil leak and I just had a gas tank installed. There is some body rot around the wheel wells.. it has served us well, but there comes a time.

    The MPG are about 16-17... time to think about something newer... if 4500 was avaiable for a trade would seriously think about it..
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    #24 Jersey

    So if you bought a fuel efficient car you get to subsidize those that didn't. Nice.

    I am certain the gas tax will go up significantly, that's the only way obama can get people to buy the cars he wants them to.
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    I think this is part of the stimulus package... also think it has to be an american made car...
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    american made or american named or union made????

    many toyotas and hondas are american made with more american made parts than GM
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    its not a bait.......I purchased an accord about a year ago, and based on the sticker, it a) was manufactured in the US b) with 80% of its parts manufactured in the US .... I also took the time to look at a chevy malibu and the same model in a saturn, and both of them said 60% of the parts were manufactured in the US, so in reality, an accord is more american made than a malibu
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    oh and by the way, you'd have to be a knucklehead to choose the malibu
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    #24 Jersey

    I don't care if it's "part of the stimulus", it's still tax money and it's still subsidizing someone who bought a car at, say, 16 MPG at the expense of a car that gets, say, 22.

    Why not make it a car that gets 5+ MPG more than the car you're trading in ? obama loves to pick favorites doesn't he. Fricking assshole (him, not you).
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    That is what it says..
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    Ford is getting screwed for not letting the Feds take the company:


    Sp the government by becoming an owner get to pick the winners and losers using our money....What a disaster.
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    true that, but ford still has the luxury of making its own decisions.........ford could take the path of honda and toyota and streamline its product line ........ and that the cars they do build are damned good ones......currently, fords product line does not suffer from the horrific products that the GM and chrysler do........ford is reasonably competitive with most of its entries
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    IE, guilty until proved innocent.

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