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Obama told China: I can't stop Israel strike on Iran indefinitely

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    Obama told China: I can't stop Israel strike on Iran indefinitely - Haaretz - Israel News

    It is how Obama uses his Nobel Peace Prize to keep the world peaceful.:singing::singing:
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    I don't get it. I get that you're attempting to criticize Obama (because you would never start a thread for any other purpose), but why?
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    #80 Jersey

    If Israel attacks Iran....or vice versa

    Kiss yor wife, tell your family you love them...because it will be Hell on Earth...

    all beacuse of $#!T that happened long ago, and grudges about faith that can never be proven.




    real smart
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    I'm not going to pile on obama for this other than to say that his naivete on thinking he could talk Iran out of nukes was greatly amusing.

    That said, Israel has no choice but to attack them. Iran is thisclose to "the bomb" and has publicly stated, many times, it's desire to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
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    Israel has "no choice"?

    BULL$#!T!!!!
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    "Iran" has not said anything of the sort. Ahmadinejad said that, but you must be daffy to believe Iran would ever nuke Israel.
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    He is their leader - their crazy leader.

    Would you be sleeping well if you were an Israeli right now ?
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    I'd be sleeping fine. Then again, I don't have the same inferiority complex that tends to dictate Israeli behavior.
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    If Israel was smart they would attack today and when they are done they should make damn well sure that the little creep Armajadydin din is stone cold dead, if they don't they will be Nuked.

    The worlds dictators are going to play Barack Hussein Obama like a fiddle, they know he's a first class conceited arrogant a$s hole THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL HE IS DOING and they'll sh!t all over him.

    WAKE UP AMERICA
    GO GET EM ISRAEL BEFORE THEY GET YOU.

    HOLY SH!T
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    He never said he wanted Israel wiped off the face of teh Earth. Believing thatmeans you are a spoonfed receptor.

    He said he wants the ZIONIST regime wiped off the map. Meaning the people who POSE as jewish, but really have an alt agenda. (Lieberman, Benjamin Netanyahu etc)

    Know whats up...please....

    There is a seat occupied by a Jewish member of the Iranian government representing their jewish population. There are over 30,000 Jews living in Iran now. Do they want to wipe them off the face of the earth too? NO.



    The perversion of the threat by those who want to start a conflict is dangerous, stop feeding that beast.
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    Inferiority complex??? The last time a dictator said he wanted to wipe the Jewish people off the face of the earth, 6 million died and most of European Jewry was wiped out. It is not 'inferiority' but a reality that they have learned the lessons of history as Castaneda opined. "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are destined to repeat it"

    Oh and the Iranian President has a worldview that includes Armageddon....
    http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=2766
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    Because Obama is the GREATEST US President. Is it OK?:singing::singing::singing::singing:
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    Quick how many rabbis are there in Iran? How many functioning synagogues? How many Jewish schools?? Zero to all and the Jewish population in Iran was 80,000 in 1979 and has dropped by 60% in the last thirty years which should tell you how happy they are. I pray there is no war but to portray the remaining Jews in Iran as happy is naive. There were still some Jews living in Nazi Germany at the onset of WW2. They may have been unable, unwilling or too old to leave......

    "The Islamization of the country has brought about strict control over Jewish educational institutions. Before the revolution, there were some 20 Jewish schools functioning throughout the country. In recent years, most of these have been closed down. In the remaining schools, Jewish principals have been replaced by Muslims. In Teheran there are still three schools in which Jewish pupils constitute a majority. The curriculum is Islamic, and Persian is forbidden as the language of instruction for Jewish studies. Special Hebrew lessons are conducted on Fridays by the Orthodox Otzar ha-Torah organization, which is responsible for Jewish religious education. Saturday is no longer officially recognized as the Jewish sabbath, and Jewish pupils are compelled to attend school on that day. There are three synagogues in Teheran, but since 1994, there has been no rabbi in Iran, and the bet din does not function" http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html...(dhimmi) is a person of the dhimma, a term which refers in Islamic law to a pact contracted between non-Muslims and authorities from their Muslim government
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    In 1979 there were 80,000 Jews living in Iran. In 2004 there were 20,000-25,000 still remaining. That number is even lower today with estimates ranging from 11,000 to 20,000.


    The Jewish community does enjoy a measure of religious freedom but is faced with constant suspicion of cooperating with the Zionist state and with "imperialistic America" — both such activities are punishable by death.

    Jews who apply for a passport to travel abroad must do so in a special bureau and are immediately put under surveillance. The government does not generally allow all members of a family to travel abroad at the same time to prevent Jewish emigration. Again, the Jews live under the status of dhimmi, with the restrictions im posed on religious minorities. Jewish leaders fear government reprisals if they draw attention to official mistreatment of their community.

    Jews also suffer varying degrees of officially sanctioned discrimination, particularly in the areas of employment, education, and public accommodations.

    The Islamization of the country has brought about strict control over Jewish educational institutions. Before the revolution, there were some 20 Jewish schools functioning throughout the country. In recent years, most of these have been closed down. In the remaining schools, Jewish principals have been replaced by Muslims. In Tehran there are still three schools in which Jewish pupils constitute a majority. The curriculum is Islamic, and Persian is forbidden as the language of instruction for Jewish studies. Special Hebrew lessons are conducted on Fridays by the Orthodox Otzar ha-Torah organization, which is responsible for Jewish religious education. Saturday is no longer officially recognized as the Jewish sabbath, and Jewish pupils are compelled to attend school on that day. There are three synagogues in Tehran, but since 1994, there has been no rabbi in Iran, and the bet din does not function.

    Jews of Iran
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    Are you really comparing Germany under Hitler to Iran under Ahmadinejad?

    Just wanted to make sure if you were serious, before I take the time to address your point.
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    I am comparing comments made by both individuals ( Hitler and Ahmadinejad) with respect to Jews/Israelis and what they felt should be done with them, both in Hitler's actions and Mein Kampf and the speeches by the Iranian President re wiping them off the earth.
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    If you think a world war would begin, you're out of your mind.
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    I can tell you that Ahmadinejad is as crazy as Hitler....does that count?
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    Switching gears a bit, I remember quite a lot of discussion on this board about the 2007 NIE on Iran that stated they had halted their nuclear program. Lots of commentary about Bush the warmonger and falsifying intel about the Iranian threat as cover for a strike. Whatever happened to that? Can we all agree now that just as the prewar Iraq intelligence was flawed as to existence/location of WMDs, the Iran intelligence was just as wrong in the other direction about their nuclear program? Doesn't that report deserve the same type of scrutiny for its obviously wrong conclusions?

    Maybe this should go in another thread, but I was thinking about it as we have moved away from the idea that they're not really doing anything to having what seems like complete consensus that they ARE advancing their program and how should we stop it. Seems like the whole "hey there was a big screwup in there somewhere" step was missing from this whole debate.

    As for Obama's message to China re Israel (if true), its probably a good tactic, a way to pressure the Chinese and Russians to stop blocking real progress on sanctions and Iranian compliance.
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    Essentially though Holy all Jews ARE zionists, in that the active anti-zionist Jewish movement makes up an extremely small fraction (less than 1% I believe) of all Jews. In that sense calling for the destruction of the zionist regime would include essentially all Jews, and certainly those that make their home in the holy land. Zionist can also be applied to non-jews, and I think some muslim extremists have used it as a categorization for the US as a whole. Has he (Ahmadinejad) ever clarified what HE defines zionist as? A semantic argument but obviously an important one.

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