Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by PATRIOTS-80, Dec 10, 2007.
It's quite a bit different than Huckabee who's talking specifics: talking about how we need Jesus and even saying that churches could take care of all our needy for only 10 cents on the dollar. As far as Oprah goes, it doesn't matter what she says anymore than it matters what Pat Robertson says.
A nuance worthy of John F. Kerry. A "R" talks about needing Jesus and a "D" quotes Scripture and talks about bringing the kingdom. Yet you label the "R" as nutty but don't condemn the "D." Is it because you presuppose that the "D" is just a cynical politician who doesn't really believe what he is saying and is trying to dishonestly get votes from religious people, whereas Huckabee is a religious nut who really believes it? You can't have it both ways. If Obama is genuine, he's a nut for trying to bring in the kingdom. If Obama is not genuine, he is just a cynical politician looking for votes.
So which is it Patters, is Obama genuine or not?
It all depends on whose Ox is being gored.
Democrat Jesus----------Good Jesus
Republican Jesus---------Bad Jesus
Two of Americas most popular Reverends happen to be Black Democrats who stand on a pulpit every Sunday morning and preach about non other than Jesus Christ (have you ever heard a democrat trash them)
Martin Luther King Jr based his whole career on God & Jesus I don't think he ever made a speech without PRAISING them.
(but we won't talk about that we don't want to hear Huckabee do it)
My issue with Huckabee is not so much that he says his beliefs are grounded in religion, but that he seems to imply specific policies, namely that we should all return to Jesus and that churches should take care of the needy (for only 10 cents on the dollar). If he talks if lofty terms, as all politicians do, I don't have a problem with it.
Edit: If he is pandering for votes, I don't have a problem with it.
In other words, Obama is not genuine.
The person I want for president is Kucinich, but he has about as much chance as Ron Paul. Relatively to Hillary, Giuliani, and Romney, I think we might agree that Huckabee and Obama are fairly genuine. But, that wasn't my point. My worry is that Huckabee seems to be linking his policies to the idea of a Christian state, and that's what I think is nutty, whether it's genuine or not.
I would say--------->YES
Are you voting for Kucinich in the primaries?
Yes. It's the only time we have a chance to send any kind of a message to the corporate heart of the party.
Kanootchi, Jimmy Sissy Carter and Shirley Coo Coo McLane all go out and sit in the Mojave Desert on Sunday Nights and look for Flying Saucers, Carter told Kanootchi one night while they were sitting in the sand, "if you ever become president you can't do this anymore, it wouldn't look right"
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