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    Obama lied through his teeth !

    He said he never knew of Jeromiah Wrights comments before yesterday.
    This guy was the spiritual advisor to his campaign and he did not know
    of his radical views. He knew him for 20 years and he considers him
    as close as an uncle, but he did not know about his views????

    Liar... Liar.... pants on fire !

    When asked why he un-invited him to his campaign kick off, he said that
    he had heard he was a little confrontational.

    A little confrontational????

    Liar Liar... Pants on fire !

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    #24 Jersey

    Yeah, those sermons we've been seeing sure looked like one time events and he's probably a real even keeled pastor most of the time, right . . . SUUUUURE.
     
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    Not sure how we hold a pastor accountable for the actions of a presidential candidate.. didn't Falwell and Robertson come and see George and tell him that homosexuality was to blame for 9-11.. did we blame George?? No we blamed Falwell and Robertson..
     
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    Either your reading comprehension sucks or you need to post a link backing that statement up. In the link that this thread is founded on Obama said he became aware of the inflammatory statements at the beginning of his presidential campaign, which was many months ago, not yesterday.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    No he did not, he lied through his teeth last night, he said he knew of a "few", but was not aware of the ones that they were running yesterday.

    Obama's shot at the Presidency is done, he must now concetrate on remaining in the US Senate. He set himslef up with when he said that he was not in the church to any of these statements, I'm sure tht Hillary's campaign is going through all the video now, and if they can find some video of him giving this racist an "Amen" after one of his racist comments, he will have to resign from the Senate.

    He should have stayed a muslim.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    And we're saying we don't believe it. Do you actually think that you could go to that church for 20 years and not see that kind of stuff ? Does that pastor look like he would be giving sermons about love and mutual respect most of the time ? For a Democrat to say yes would be equivalent to a Republican saying he thinks Bush is a smart guy; it doesn't pass the sniff test.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    No-one is holding the pastor responsible. We're holding Obama responsible for who he associates with and wondering who the real Obama is if this is who he picks to be a friend/advisor.
     
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    I guess your reading comprehension is no better. Makes sense considering how you botched up all those threads yesterday. Post up or shut up. If you've got something to back up your BS put it here.
     
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    This is the funniest part of all and its why your boy Regan is spinning in his grave right now. You used to be about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY; but now the guy who made the lousy remarks is off the hook for making them and someone who might have heard them is being held accountable.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    That's not what we're saying. You are choosing to read that. The Pastor is responsible for what he said. And the Congregation (ALL OF THEM) are responsible for enabling him by listening to him and, presumably, supporting the church financially. That includes Obama.
     
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    And that is exactly what we are saying, nobody here is saying that Rev. Wright doesn't have the absolute right to be the anti-American racist that he is, what we are saying is that it is Obama's PERSONal RESPONCIBILTY not to assoicate himself with an anti-American racist bigot like his "Pastor".

    If Trent Lott had to resingn his Senate post, because he said some kind things about a former segregationalist at his 100th birthday party. What should Obama have to do for being a member of this racist anti-American church?

    Now don't get me wrong, I want Obama to win the nomiation, because his days as a viable candidate for Presdient are OVER! Imagine the GOP crossover in PA! You guys are always accusing Republicans of voting for racists, and now (at least for the rest of the primary season), they actually get to do it!
     
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    Flip flop much?

    Tell me something. The guy who baptized your oldest child...

    Who did he vote for in 2004?

    What's his position on FISA?

    How does he feel about tax cuts?

    I'm sure you wouldn't trust so sacred a ceremony to someone whom you didn't thoroughly vet. So producing these answers won't be much of a problem.

    Its funny. I'm a proud Atheist and seem to be one of the very few who has a grasp of just how little attention is paid to the sermon during mass. The vast majority of people are looking at their watches and wondering why the holy dude won't hurry up and hand the wafers out already.
     
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    Where did Bush refer to Falwell as his uncle?
     
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    If I was in the pew and heard my Pastor spew this bigoted crap week after week I would have taken personal responsibility and walked out and not come back.

    Thisis the point by not leaving for over 20 years and then putting the bigot on your campaign staff you are endorsing hsi views and bigotry.

    That is what Obama needs to take responsibility for.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    There's no point in talking to you if you're gonna be a jerk and take me out of context that much. You know DAMN WELL what I'm saying. The pastor is responsible for what he says - Obama is responsible for listening to and supporting the pastor.

    Don't go to church, kids aren't baptized.


    That may be true for some drab, run of the mill sermon. Do you think it would be the case for that sermon ? I don't think so.
     
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    20 years X 52 weeks per year = over 1000 sermons

    you got what 4 quotes? That's 3/10ths of one percent of the sermons. I bet 8 or 9 hundred of 'em were themed 'Be nice to each other.'

    I wonder how many times Obama went to the noon mass and wondered if the good ol' fervorus Reverend would finish up on time to get home for the Football game at 1? I bet it happened a bunch.
     
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    The Clinton's will leak more.

    How bout the church giving Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award? How bout visiting and praising Quaddfi in Libya? This guy is a gold mine for the Clinton oposition reasearch group. The quotes come off a DVD the church is selling THEY ARE PROUD OF THIS BIGOTED NUTJOB!!

    WOuld you have stayed in the church hearing this bigoted junk al the time?
     
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    Hey SDaniells7114, my comprehension is just fine.

    Here is the link of Obama big lie !
    He said that he did not know until the speeches were aired this week.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/html/62894.html

    How can someone like you question someone's comprehension, when your have grammar like a grand ma ma from the old country ?


    And who is Regan?

    Do you mean Ronald Reagan ?
     
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