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  1. IcyPatriot

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    A great move if they pull it off ...

    GOP votes to defund Obama's policy 'czars' - The Hill's E2-Wire

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    That is the most important thing that needs to happen, other than taking a machete and chain saw to the budget. Eliminate all layers of appointed beurocrats on any side, who can make decisions and rules without repercussion from the electorate.
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    ? How far do you want to go with that -- abolish the Cabinet?
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    There is a tendency to demonize specific parts of the budget, i.e. NPR, CZARS etc. all a while the really big fish continue to proceed unabatedly and no one notices...

    IMO Czars are not the sole venue of this administration, and having high level advisors to provide input for decision making is a good thing.. consider the alternative a Prez who only listens to his inner circle and leads us to war, oh never mind.

    Think the name CZAR should be thrown out..
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    No. Not abolish. There are constitutionally mandated offices in the cabinet.

    Lets say, trim.

    But this has nothing to do with eliminating beaurocrats who have the ability to impose rules, to replace laws, without the approval of Congress, and with no accountability to the people.

    Governing through mandate. This is the worse of all possible situations in a Republic.
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    Impeach Jug Ears.
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    lol impeach the President because Harry doesn't like him

    You're really going to hate the next 5 years...
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    That alone might be worht voting for Obama.
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    The only thing wrong with impeaching Golden Throat is we would wind up with that friggin moron, Windbag Biden.

    :mad:
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    CZAR!
    OOOOOOooo! What a scary word! Say it with a Soviet accent...makes it evem more scary! Obama is a communist Muslim from outer space!
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    Didn't the Soviets terminate the reign of the czars/tsars? Maybe a Russian or Bulgarian accent?

    The first U.S. czar was apparently Bernard Baruch who was put in charge of the War Industries Board in WW I.
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    Unlike Cabinet officials who are vetted in Senate hearings, these Czars are noot vetted this was done because Obama didn't want the records of these people reviewed and made public due to their radical (in mnay cases) background.

    BTW just a note the Czar was royality not a communist, although many of Obama's czars are. Just saying. Great reason for libertarians for vote for statist.
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    Did anyone ever notice the amount of Czars during the reign of George W... or did this just begin on 1/20/09????

    Selective memory once again...
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    And under your man, Bush?


    Who are the "many" Obama czars that are communist?
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    I was responding to wistah's joke with my own. I also pointed out that the practice originated almost a century ago.

    Wholesale misreading once again.
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    Vice President, Windbag Biden is "The White House Dog Czar" he takes Bo Obama out on the lawn every morning to do pee pee & poo poo, he carrys a little baggie for the poo poo.
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    The Cabinet people are approved by Congress ... that's different.

    Czars are not under Congress scrutiny.
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    I noted it before ... Clinton energized it and then Bush exploited it - Obama continued it.
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    Yup. And some of the Cabinet positions are enumerated in the Constitution.
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    I know it's different, which is why I was asking shirtsleeve if he really wanted to go far as his post possibly indicated -- and he clarified what he wanted.

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