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    #24 Jersey

    So... our future President agrees with infanticide after all ... he was forced to admit it and can't run any longer. He has tried to run from this for 4 years ... but it's over.

    http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/Obamacoveruponbornalive.htm

    President "Baby Killer" ... now that's COMPASSION !!!
     
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    Obama is in heavy lying mode about his horrific opposition to this bill.

    Here is a you tube of him lying about his opposition and spinning like crazy, at the end of the video they like to the wording of the bill he killed in the Ill legislature, it pass the year AFTER he left the Ill senate.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlBj9mzqOIU

    here is NO talking about what a bother it would be to have a second doctor examine an infant who is born ALIVE.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqnv-SuVFUY
     
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    Tell me the truth, are you really stupid enough to believe infanticide is legal in Illinois? I honestly don't think you are, but I do think you are touting an extremist political line. Courts ruled years ago that there is no such thing as a right to a live-birth abortion. Quite obviously, a baby born alive is a living human being throughout the U.S. The bill Obama opposed was a backdoor to challenge Roe v. Wade, but on the bright side it would have used taxpayer dollars to keep the child alive even if the child was deemed brain dead and the parents did not want it to remain on life support.

    The Republicans are getting desperate. I hope they run an infanticide ad.
     
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    There was sworn testimony by multiple nurses that it happened. If it was illegal to deny help why the opposition by BO???
     
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    #24 Jersey


    Give yourself an infraction ... ;)
     
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    If a baby is born alive, it is a human being. That has been settled time and again. This type of legislation was introduced at both the state and federal level to bring attention to the partial birth abortion issue and Roe v. Wade as I understand it. That said, there were apparently many reasons to oppose the bill, and a quarter of the Illinois legislature opposed it according to Obama's fight the smears site, which I just looked at:

    http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/08/19/fact_check_born_alive_1.php

    I'm as pro-abortion as anyone, but I certainly believe that a baby born alive is a human being. As far as a living human being purposely killed in a hospital, I'm sure it's happened, but situations like that are most certainly anomalous; or why would many anti-aborton women give birth in hospitals? The bill in question apparently had a number of problems and there was some bipartisan opposition to it (according to Obama's site).
     
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    #18 Jersey

    Once McCain & Obama start debating, THEN it will be over. Do you actually believe McCain will hold his own in debates? In my opinion, he is more intellectually challenged than George W.

    Now you may say "Well, George won 2 elections!" and I would say that was due to the strong backing of the the Christian-Right and the emotional issues he spoke of.

    The Christian-Right is dead and we won't be fooled by emotional issues again. But time will tell.
     
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    Botox Teeth Pelosi said this last week "God has sent Barack Obama to us" that sounds like something a "dirty christian" would say----------:confused:
     
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    #37 Jersey

    You are a partisan and can't admit it, you actually think the messiah can do anything without a teleprompter? Hill killed him in their debates. And usually when you are wrong on every issue it will come through in a debate. Obama is trying to win this on class and race warfare, he has nothing else to offer, except bull**** words than mean nothing. Change? Yeah for the worse.
     
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    While I recognize many conservatives have no respect for intelligent people and thus vote for mediocre students like Bush and Reagan, who knew only how to create massive deficits to keep the economy going, many of us really admire Obama for his Harvard studies, being president of the Harvard Law Review, taught Constitutional Law for 12 years, etc. He'll do fine in the debates, and the subtle racism of posts like yours trying to label him as waging race and class warefare, will only fly among bigots. And to say he has nothing to offer is absurd, and while you may oppose peace and safety for our troops and health care for the poor and needy, many of us disagree with you on that.
     
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    #18 Jersey

    Correction...if I may, MILLIONS of us disagree with PFiEL on that!
     
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    #37 Jersey

    Is that all you have? Disagree with Obama and you're a racist:rolleyes: Seems like Obama's race warfare is working among those voting simply on the basis of race.

    I am a "troop", and I find Obama the most dangerous person ever to be nominated for president.
     
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    Millions of slobbering holier than thou politically correct socialist phony do-gooders believe that all people that don't support the Holy Great Messiah are Racists they love to accuse people of racism it makes them feel superior in the presence of other Left Wing Loons.

    99% of white people support white candidate----------Racism
    99% of black people support black candidate----------Progress

    :bricks:
     
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    #18 Jersey

    We're almost all partisan to some degree. But I say I am less partisan than you are PFiEL. If you read a lot of my posts, you'd know that although I support much democatic philosophy, I am very non-partisan on some issues.

    ....and don't ask me to list them for you. Others here know I don't always "toe the line" on all issues.

    The main issue I am sick of is the republican belief that the economy is the most important issue they are responsible for when in fact it isn't their responsibility at all! The business of our government is NOT business!

    Prior to the Great Depression, president Calvin Coolidge (republican) stated,

    "The business of America is business"

    That was based upon the typical overconfidence in the American economy that preceded the Great Depression. See any commonalities happening right now PFiEL?
     
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    Gee BO's campaign is embarrassed about his disgraceful actions blocking bills to provide medical aid and nutrition to infants, who knew.

    Well Patter facts are facts, in the you tube clip you hear him objecting because it would be an undue bother to the attending physician to have to call for a second opinion. The link with the transcript of his committee speaks for itself.


    As to his initial lie about not voting for the bill because of language missing from the bill that was in the federal legislation, when the language he demanded was put in the bill he still wouldn't vote for the bill.

    The spinning is pathetic, stand up proudly for Bo position that the fact a baby is born means it is OK to let the baby die since the intent was to kill the infant.

    If you believe in something stand up for it and quit lying.
     
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    BO is horrible when he doesn't have a TelePrompTer, see the interview with Warren which was a mess for BO. That is why his campaign wouldn't agree to 'townhall' meetings with McCain, they went with the minimum # of debates with the MSM.
     
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    You're the one who brought up race, and I wonder if you are among those Republicans who do all they can to allude to Obama's race -- question his birthplace, question his religion, remind people of his Kenyan half brothers. Those Republicans think they're being subtle, but it's quite obvious they are trying to say, "He's different from us."

    You may be a troop, but you put partisan politics way ahead of the troops or you'd certainly have a more nuanced view.
     

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