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Obama fights back on questions about his patriotism

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  1. weswelker#83

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    I would have no particular reason to think Sen Obama isn't patriotic (not sure I can say the same about many of his followers however ;) ). His policies are to the extreme left however the guy is a socialist as far as domestic policy goes, and his foreign policy is naive and dangerous.
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    This is appearing to become clearer and clearer the deeper we look into his stands on issues.

    He's got a gift for gab, no question about that, but running the most important country in the world requires more than nice speeches. This ain't Cuba or downtrodden early 20th century Russia we're talking about; this is America.


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    Hopefully he won't try to sell us into a war in sri lanka based on evidence that britain can be attacked in 45 minutes and they have a fleet of model airplanes ready to attack america with nuke bio and chemical wmds...

    Cuz if he does we know who will that bait hook line and sinker, right patsfan13?
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    I sure he won't. we'll get attakced a few times and then have a commission to study why people hate us.
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    He's got his sights set on a war in Dafur (that will be a good war better than the Bush War)

    We won't know anything about this guy until he is elected and sworn in then the Real Prince Obabma will emerge, he's been lucky, nobody has dared to ask him the though questions thats why he stears clear of Fox News and the Democrats don't care what he does as long as he is a Minority and keeps talking pretty and takes a bath every day.

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    He needs to understand the old addage that, "actions speak louder than words", applies to politicians too.

    When people see this:

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    And don't see this:

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    Anywhere here:

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    With this as a reason why:



    They will think accordingly. Not enough people take the time to understand something in this country. They see & react. Sometimes that works for you, sometimes it works against you. What do people also say, perception is reality? :(
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    You posted this pic before , a couple of months ago? I remember you questioning obama and the pledge and using this photo....
    About the same time this was going on:
    And when insight magazine fogbusters daddy moon creation and fox news tried the propaganda, that obama is a muslim and was schooled in a madrassa:eek:

    I read that the photo was taken not during a pledge, but a song america the beautiful....I will try to find the column, fighting propaganda is going to be a big part of this campaign..

    We are going to learn how effective propaganda is in shaping the minds of americans......
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    You just owned/pwned him bad !Thank you,sir.
    "Real World is one of those people who's soul perpose is to bash anything opposite his party." LOL
    /hehehehehe
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    My point is about perception. We live in a drive thru, 20 minutes or less, excusist, appologist, dumbified society. For too many, preception is reality. That's not a good thing.
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    Do you even know what jack was talking about?
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    When you don't know something,ask nicely and we will explain you.



    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/03/fashion/sundaystyles/03FLAG.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
    Read the full article and you will understand ,you don't need to thank me .
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    I honestly admit that I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I must honestly add that I don't think you have the slightest clue as to what my point was. I think you see my posting of the pictures as being some sort of slander against Obama. I posted pictures to illustrate what my point was, and in doing so, I think you've proven it to be true through your reaction. Just as you view my post to be an attack, others, when provided with the propagandized text from the right (or Hillary Clinton), will view it as being true, or a reason not to vote for him. So basically you're a member of the group such stuff targets. ;)
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    It seems you have an excellent memory. :p
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    NEM I read that one as 2 separate issues from pf13. #1 he has no reason to think Obama is unpatriotic, then, as a separate thought, #2 his policies are far left. Maybe I am wrong though and he was trying to relate the two.

    But come on, haven't you heard that a vote for Obama lets the terrorists win? His middle name is Hussein! He's a muslim! He won't wear a stupid pin on his lapel! Off to guantanamo with him I say.:eek:
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    We learn how effective it is during EVERY campaign, and the sad answer is VERY effective.

    I think that was taken during the star spangled banner, and I think he said he was taught that you hold your hand over your heart during the pledge, and you sing during the national anthem.
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    #15 Jersey

    Is this the best the opposition can come up with? I really don't care if my candidate does not wear a flag on his lapel. I'm not sure of the photo with his hand not over his heart. I notice that the other two in the picture are not looking in the same direction (at the flag). Is there a video with this allegation? I have also noticed that Obama does not "God Bless America" after his speeches, and I have to say Thank God!
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    Correct, thanks for reading and not just reacting.

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