Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by NEPatriot, Aug 3, 2009.
Obama eyes moving Guantanamo prisoners to lockup in Michigan
6 Threads for NEIdiot today.
Wait, I thought Obama already closed Guantanamo bay? You mean its not? Just another broken promise. Actually, what promises has he come through on yet?
Here is the scary part. State is shutting down prisons and offices and reducing judges' working hours because they don't have money.
Does it mean that Obama allows these terrorists to wander FREELY because nobody takes them?
Put them in an American "Super Max" where they will have to be under 24 hour lockdown to protect them from the KLAN & The Ayrian Brotherhood.
After a couple of months locked up in a little cell around the clock the bastards will be praying to their Allah to send them back to Gitmo where they can play soccer in the sunshine beside the sea and have lemon Chicken for supper.
Good, Put Them In A Real Prison.
Gitmo should have been closed as soon as Stupid Obama was coronated and the terrorists should have been sent to solitary in a Super Max (bush was to easy on them)
That makes a lot of sense, they are talking about using fed systems.. last time I checked the fed system is not paid by state taxpayers...
Federal Bureau of Prisons runs the federal prisons, but they do house inmates in state prisons when they need space(see thread about the teen from North Carolina in June for example)
He is talking out his azz to try to make things appear worse than they are. Funny that he left out the part that the state wants it because it would bring jobs with the renovations and keeping it open under new ownership.
We have empty supermax prisons thanks to the prison industrial complex (another wonderful aspect of privatization and prok), I see no reason why detainees can't be housed in those facilities.
Of course, there's the legal problem that because Bush trampled the constitution when he detained them indefinitely without any kind of evidence chain that if they end up in the U.S. they might have to be released.
I'm calling you on this, where are those supposedly empty supermax prisons.
Montana and I believe Illinois.
Montana town lobbies to turn empty prison into ‚ÄėGitmo North‚Äô - The National Newspaper
Thomson prison supporters to rally in Illinois
Previously posted the Montana Prison situation... was not aware of the Illinois situation.. due to security concerns, either may be security deficient.. envision as facility more like Florence, Colorado...
Take Prisoners Out Of One Prison And Put Them In Another Prison Because The First Prison Is Where The Hated Bush Put Them
lol lol lol lol ha ha ha
At least you backed up your claim with a real link, unlike many here
It's empty for a reason, one of which may be within the article itself: it's not what they need for the detainees.
And really, it's the fed's fault that the town built the facility without any kind of contract from either the state or feds?
The very reason why it won't be used is probably in the article: one other prison needs a lot of work, that one is ready and waiting to open...therefore they will likely close the one that needs work and open the section of the prison that is sitting empty as of the time.
The article is from March 31st, from reading this article from June 18th it looks like they may be trying to open it soon, so it may be unavailable for use by the Feds. Other articles are similarly themed, the state wants or needs it for the state's needs so it's not likely at all to be used by the feds even if they wanted to.
Ill. prisons chief: no closings yet - Wandtv.com, NewsCenter17, StormCenter17, Central Illinois News-
That's the so-called "supermax" prisons...neither the one in Illinois nor the one in Montana are that. And the article about Montana says it's not for maximum security...more like minimum to medium security. Even with renovations it may not be what they need for a prison.
A few of your points about Montana are answered in the article:
the one in Colorado isn't supermax either, but it's got terrorists nonetheless:
These people, some of whom are most likely innocent, are not hardened criminals (countdown to righty misconstruing this), they have committed heinous acts of political violence yes, but there's only 200 of them and this is a facility meant to house thousands. They aren't going to be rioting or shanking each other in the prison yard, with the proper supervision I really doubt it makes a difference whether it was built as medium or maximum security.
And this part you missed:
And this one is major:
Until Baucus signs off, it won't be going in Montana. President Obama isn't going to put them in Montana if the #5 Democrat in the Senate and head of the Senate Finance Committee says no.
Florence, CO is a Supermax prison:
ADX Florence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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