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    I didn't use the euphemism 'killing' to avoid offending the sensitive.

    This time the EPA has decided that cement is the pollutian great noew for construction workers.

    Obama Proclaims: Stimulus Forever - John Ransom - Townhall Finance


    Not to worry Obama will extend the unemployment benefits for those losing their jobs. :bricks:
     
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    you know 13, if it wasn't for me, most of your threads would sink to the back page, unacknowledged, within a day. Another sad 0-for-response thread, rescued by your least favorite poster who revels in holding your perpetual, ironic, partisan nonsense accountable.

    Now, could we please dispense with the "Republicans create jobs" myth?

    From a recent Krugman column (transcribed from print, can't link)

     
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    Of course I didn't mention pubs creating jobs, I did mention Obama's EPA destroying jobs so since you have no way to rebut or defend defining cement as a dangerous pollutant you pull out the perennially wrong Krugman to deflect, gosh noting to contribute as usual.

    As to the lack of response to some of my posts, frequently my post are so on target people just let them be instead of making themselves look foolish trying to unsuccessfully deflect as you are showing here.
     
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    Interestingly, he doesn't in any way demonstrate that the rules are unnecessary. He just claims they are and leaves it at that.

    maybe he's right, but it's horrible "journalism." And horrible writing and debate if he isn't a journalist.

    Not sure where he got the compliance cost estimates, either.
     
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    If you're too sick to work you don't count as unemployed even though you are, in fact, unemployed. So the writer has a point, this will lead to greater unemployment. On the plus side there'll be less sick people.
     
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    Fill us in on cement as a pollutant making people sick so they can't work?
     
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    Shouldn't your article have addressed that?

    (btw, the rules aren't against cement, they cover what can be produced in making cement, right?)
     
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    Excellent post. It's also not surprising that Republicans have not responded to it.
     
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    "My article" describes the economic impact it is not seeking to justify the silly proposition that cement is a pollutant.
     
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    Looking solely at the economic impact of an environmental regulation is as stupid as looking solely at the environmental impact. Neither extreme is justified, when the two are interlocked.

    Who has said cement is a pollutant? You understand the difference between an end product and a by-product, right?

    If the regs address something different, please say so, as I already asked. if they're addressing what is believe they are, then either you have a fundamental lack of understanding of how manufacturing processes work or you're being disingenuous about the regs. I'll leave it to you to answer which of the three is the case here -- though I don't really expect you to provide an answer.
     
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    LOL!!!!!!!!

    No, self-obsessed moderator. That's not the reason at all. But whatever you need to tell yourself.

    Your threads routinely suck, and utterly fail up against any semblance of critical analysis.
     
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    Most entertaining post of the decade. Tho, not everyone will get it.
     
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    I am still curious about how some of you see Cement as a pollutant and why it is good for people to lose their jobs so it can be regulated?

    Nothing approaching an answer thus far, just lots of crickets.
     
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    Nothing approaching answer from you, either, just lots of crickets:

    "Looking solely at the economic impact of an environmental regulation is as stupid as looking solely at the environmental impact. Neither extreme is justified, when the two are interlocked.

    Who has said cement is a pollutant? You understand the difference between an end product and a by-product, right?

    If the regs address something different, please say so, as I already asked. if they're addressing what is believe they are, then either you have a fundamental lack of understanding of how manufacturing processes work or you're being disingenuous about the regs. I'll leave it to you to answer which of the three is the case here -- though I don't really expect you to provide an answer."
     
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    I know agent 13 isn't interested in the slightest about air pollution caused by the cement industry. That this was really intended as another "Obama sucks" thread; but I would like to point out that the term:

    air pollution in the cement industry

    produces a bit under 3 million hits on Google.
     
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    "It's estimated that" her pulled them out of his *****.

    Gotta love the passive voice.

    PFnV
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    You're here all week, right?

    Wow, that's entertainment.

    PFnV
     
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    They do the same thing to me.

    :bricks:
     
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    Probably not the backup 13 was hoping for. :singing:
     
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    How much mercury is released? how much particulate matter?

    Who consumes the most cement? China, we curtail our production they increase theirs, wonder which plants emit less pollution? especially particulates.

    BTW it is funny that they are worried about Mercury released from these plants (although no figures for the amount is given anywhere I have looked), yet we are mandating CFL bulbs which contain mercury be placed in our houses....:rolleyes:
     

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