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    You'll soon be told how right leaning Rasmussen is; but that doesn't matter, the trend is what's important. Unfortunately the American public is fickle and this can change any second; but it's good news for those of us hoping for the Republicans to get some seats back in the midterms, not to mention it should make all congressmen skittish about blind support for the obamans.
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    I'm a little surprised that Obama's support remains as strong as it is, with a general approval rating 58% favorable, 37% negative.

    Pollster.com: Obama Job Approval - New "All Adults" Chart

    Most people are not like us. They are simply interested in results. And so far the results are not great. But, people still seem to be giving Obama the benefit of the doubt. I think that if health care reform and cap and trade pass, it will be good for the economy. But, that's because I think capitalism needs to dynamic to play off of. If neither of those pass, it will spell trouble for the economy, as well as the Democrats and Obama, even with their demographic advantages.
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    They only have two recent polls, Gallup and Rasmussen, it's not as wide looking as it appears unless you like old data. Say what you want about Rasmussen but he had obama +28 and +35 (strong approve minus strong disapprove first, total approve minus total disapprove second) on inauguration day and now has him at -3 and +5. Same pollster, clear trend.
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    Updating with today's poll. he's now at -5 and +4. A precipitous drop from a m onth ago when he was +7 and +13. It's been a continuous drop just about; I post this, again, understanding that one big smile of his could give him a big gain.
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    I like Pollster.com's aggregate approach, which uses only mainstream surveys, including Rasmussen. As far as an individual polling concern, I've always trusted Gallup to do an honest job:

    Obama Averages 61% Job Approval in June

    Fox, surprisingly, also seems to do a pretty good job (though occasionally they are called out for asking blatantly biased questions) on polls.

    Fox Poll: Obama Approval At62% - Real Clear Politics – TIME.com

    At any rate, Obama's numbers are trending the wrong way, no matter which poll you look at.
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    That poll was from June 11, almost a month ago. Rasmussen had him at 58% back then. Now Rasmussen has him at 52%.
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    I think it should be said that this drop has occurred despite the media's active cheerleading for the occupant of the Oval Office.

    Some people laugh at this, like DarrylS, then when I show him anecdotal but nonetheless telling evidence, he dismisses this.

    Obama himself joked that everyone in the press corps voted for him, except maybe Fox News. Sometimes the obvious truth is often difficult to see.
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    I think the media likes Obama and his family and depending on what people watch on tv, listen to on radio, or read in newspapers, they could be influenced favorably or unfavorably. But, my guess is most people are not influenced one way or the other because they are not terribly interested in politics. And those who are interested in politics are less easily influenced. So, who are we talking about? The handful of blank slates that pay attention to news and politics. I think that's a very tiny number of people, and they're at least as likely to watch Fox or listen to Rush as they are to watch Stewart or read the New York Times.
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    I guess when your approval ratings are so high, they have to come down a little eventually.
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    A little ? He was +35 on inauguration day, today he was +4. That's 31% who have moved from Approve to Disapprove. If that's a little, a lot would be a single digit approval I guess.

    Again, I point out that one big smile and this could reverse quickly but it's fun for now.
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    Polls.:rolleyes: Obviously trends can give you an idea of where the publics sentiments are moving, but polls are what they are overall. GW was once at 90%, and ended up at 27%(er...PC :D). In the end it's the policies that are important, and that's why I put little weight into what the public thinks. This is a public that has a 30-40% moron factor. The American Idol loving, Michael Jackon kiddie didler adoring, Batchelorette watching rejects that comprise a sizable portion of those polled, carry little weight with me.

    Obama has been in office for 6 months, so it's still very early in his presidency. While I don't like a lot of what he's done, and see him as I figured he'd be, extremely liberal, and in over his head, I don't think he's had nearly enough time to be judged. He did not step into a good situation, and any changes, or policies aimed at righting the ship, will need time to play themselves out. Again though, I think his policies are more harmful, than helpful, but I could be wrong.
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    Well the numbers don't lie :)

    For the record, I expect obama to be re-elected because he has that personal "it" factor, much like Bush II did at his re-election time (the latter really lost his edge after that). Even though a lot of people had moved on the war, Bush II had something about him back then, a charisma. So does obama. However I expect Republicans to make up major ground in the midterms.
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    Not to hijack the thread but if the media has such little infuence on most people then why does the fairness stir up so much passion?
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    I think that question will be answered in 2010..... If the Republicans have a good showing, it's a pretty good indicator of the tenor of the public. If they don't do well, IT'S OVER.......
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    It's emotional. No one in the political class likes to see their guy picked on, and of course the media does have power over blank slates, who could affect a close election. In general though, I think family, friends, and personal experience have far more to do with people's political attitudes than anything the media does.
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    The Dingobat Congress, Barack Hussein Obama & his Moron Windbag Vice President are the best thing that could happen for the Republicans.

    Obama and his Congress are going nuts with their new found power, they will pay.
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    Rasmussen keeps getting linked because he has the most consistently posted, easy to read and follow polls. Also the trend is valuable even if you don't think the raw number is.

    That said :

    obama won by 7.3%. The average poll had obama by 7.6%. Rasmussen had obama by 6%. He's not nearly as far off as some of you like to think.

    RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama
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    Rasmussen had used the same methodology and has asked the same questions across multiple administrations so the rulsts are consistent across time, he doesn't ask push poll questions to get a desired result. The questions being asked now are the same as asked during the Bush admin. He also doesn't over/ sample particular parties like ther polls (look at the internals).
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    You forgot to mention community organizer.

    Friend of the racist Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright.

    Friend of whacko Catholic priest Fr. Pfleger. Are you familiar with a priest named Michael Pfleger?

    Harvard Law Review scholar who never published anything under his name of Barry Sotero.

    Mediocre student (at best) at Occidental who somehow--the benefits of affirmative action?--gained admittance to Ivy League Columbia.

    And continuing his nondescript ways--and some Black Panther interventions (see Obama's McKnight In Shining Armor) with high-ranking Manhattan politicians--gains admittance to Harvard Law. More benefits of affirmative action?

    He was also raised in the Muslim religion for a number of years. Afterwards, he attended a Marxist church in Hawaii. Then he was formed under the tutelage of prominent devotees of ultra-leftist Saul Alinsky.

    Put bluntly: there's nothing in Obama's statements, written and oral, that revute the allegation he is of the Marxist persuasion.

    How did we get to this very low state of affairs? I'm not sure.
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    It's called apathy. The country used to be a garden people were willing to cultivate. Now we have reduced it to the frozen food isle.
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    Well actually he was an editor at first then the president of the review. One position involves editing others' work, not writing. The other is an overall leadership position, also not writing. Criticizing Obama for not writing anything for the review is about the same as criticizing Eisenhower for not personally killing any Germans on D Day. IE its truthful, but still silly.

    Wow, all the major media outlets seem to think his grades at Occidental are not public. If you have proof he was a lousy student I'd drop a line to Rush or someone else with a larger voice in the media.

    Marxist church? Are you sure that isn't a completely made up thing?

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