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    American Thinker: Mark Levin's Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto

    The author of this book thinks so. I'll read it.
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    I see and hear a lot of babble, but not much action.. change you can believe in.. not sure that the Conservatives can rally a big base... right now it looks like guerilla warfare.
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    If they screw up badly enough, there will be reaction. Bet the ranch on that.


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    This text is really twisted, and Mark Levin is obviously just another necon. I find it laughable when he says "The Modern Liberal believes in the supremacy of the state" when in fact they only try to impose necessary regulation to keep the conservative bankers and Wall St types from taking advantage over rank-and-file citizens to drive their own greed. Utopia is an impossible state: there's always ugly work to be done, and it can only come close to being accomplished to the benefit of the influential over the poor and downtrodden.

    The GOP has always claimed to favor minimized government, but this has always translated into deregulation which supports what this author blames on liberals. It is the conservatives who are the authoritarians, not the liberals.
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    Ahhhhh, no, not true. Conservatives believe in limited authority resting in as few hands as possible. Kind of like the word "conservative" comes from the word "conserve", you know, to "keep as much as possible, without a lot of waste", like, "let's conserve the water in case it doesn't rain for a while", or "let's conserve our money in case of an unexpected illness or injury or slow down in business". "Let's keep close council on ourselves and not bother with someone else 'taking care' of us. Limited gov'ment, like."

    Conservatives like to "conserve" things, don't like to waste things. Not afraid to work for that, either.

    Liberals think money grows on trees and that they just want to get one of those trees, no matter who pays for it. OPM, other peoples' money. :bricks:


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    President Prince Jug Ears Obama and the GRINNING democrat Pelosi Lap Dogs will within the next four years bring about the entire collapse of the New MTV Democrat Party.
    GOOD RIDDENCE
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    Baby Cyclops born in India - Pravda.Ru
    Two weeks ago, in the Kasturba Ghandi Hospital in the city of Chennai, a baby with one eye was born. Doctors believe that the baby has a good chance of living on. A similar case also occurred in Russia.

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    YES....:rocker:

    A one eyed baby.... Now THATS change we can believe in.
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    There's nothing twisted about his statement. Forget the GOP for a second, and merely concentrate on those he's speaking of. Modern liberals want the gubmit to undertake the responsibilities of all, while forcing everyone to partake in the sacrafices and cost. It's absolutely akin to tyranny, and oppression.

    Now, as for the GOP, when was the last time they were conservative? Seriously, they just stood on the largest expanse of gubmit in history, and this guy thinks that they are set for a revolution. I think the country might be ready to revolt, but it won't be to the GOP, who lost their way a long, long time ago.
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    Haven't read the book, the title says a conservative manifesto not a republican manifesto. It would be nice if the conservatives could rest control of the party from the RINO;s and 'moderates'. The country would be far better served.


    This article describes a big part of the problem:

    Pajamas Media » In Washington, Conservatives Are Never Really ‘In Power’


    The author (who is a Federal Employee) goes on to describe how the saffing of the bureauracy is overwhelming liberal and why... good article.
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    The current economic crisis proves this doesn't work. It's not that the liberals are for more government, it's really the conservatives that don't provide for enough government.

    Conserve things? Like the environment. Like the standard of living for regular Americans?
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    LMAO, did you see some of the other links? This is good stuff!

    Mankind descended from civilization of Atlanteans in the Arctic - Pravda.Ru

    Vampires are proved to exist - Pravda.Ru

    Russian fishermen catch squeaking alien and eat it - Pravda.Ru

    Invisible poisonous skyfish fly at 300 km/h all around us: Topic. Pravda.Ru

    Another human civilization may live inside Earth's hollows - Pravda.Ru

    Economic recession in USA is simply a hoax - Pravda.Ru

    Dog gives birth to mutant creature that resembles human being (photo) - Pravda.Ru

    It's endless!
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    First of all, that's quite an exageration (bolded part). Liberals merely recognize that many people simply will have difficulty surviving without government assistance due to, among other things, the greed of Wall St, pharmaceuticals, and the insurance industry. And again, this current economic crisis is evidence of this, except that this time it's gone so far over the top, that the government may not be able to help.
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    1. How much government is "enough"?? What does each family/individual have to do, and what should be put onto the shoulders of others??

    2. Environmental Conservation: liberal vs conservative -- see AlGore's home and Geo Bush's home comparisons (2000 through 2008, when AlGore was reinventing himself into a "champion" for the environment). Anecdotal, but very telling. George (conservative) did, but didn't talk about it; AlGore did NOT, but told every one else to do it. :wha:

    Standard of living for regular Americans?? See how Congress (liberal Dem-dominated these days) spends for itself -- world-wide junkets, all at the tax-payers' expense -- see how Michelle Obama scrambles fleets of SUVs for a shopping spree. See how Obama, the Congress, and all liberals want to take more and more from working people, people who take responsibility to start up new businesses (which employ MILLIONS), and make them pay more and more to people who would rather stay home, watch TV all day, drink, use drugs, and have children without regard for them or their futures, but never work for anything. Then see how a person like Sarah Palin stands by her handicapped child and takes full responsibility for him, doesn't go simpering and crying to the "gubmint" (other tax payers) to take care of her situation.



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    Another point. You contradict Mark Levin. He indicates that liberals stand in the way of achieving a utopian state. But how can a utopian state ever be achieved without the government undertaking the responsibilities of all? Utopia will never take place without regulation, without the bankers and the insurers and the pharmaceuticalers (word?) running the ship, though they do try hard to create one for themselves.

    All the Utopian fiction (1984, etc) has all dealt with what were in fact false utopias, forced upon the people in exchange for their free will. If in fact liberals stand in the way of utopia, then I'm all for it.
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    Good point. That's why a true utopia must start from true people and true families.

    Exposition of the Divine Principle - 1996 Translation


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