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  1. The Brandon Five

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    United States denies asylum to gay Saudi... JPost - International
    I think that's pretty close to the headline that would have appeared in the NY Times if this happened under Bush.

    I don't know about anyone else, but I don't give a sod about U.S.-Saudi relations. We should have invaded that hellhole instead of Iraq.
     
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    If he really faces death I'd support him being granted asylum. Lets see what happens, I'm not against the administration letting the court system take the blame for any issues with the Saudis. Why not try and avoid a fight over it if possible?

    Ideally someone would invent a way to turn sea water into gasoline for $0.50/gal. Then we could tell the Saudis to stick their backwards-thinking heads up their behinds; but until then some tact is prolly for the best, as long as at the end of the day this guy doesn't face death just for being gay.
     
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    Too bad he isn't Obama's uncle or aunt or something. Then asylum would have been a certified guarantee. Someone give this guy that lawyer in Clevelands number.
     
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    Let's see what happens?

    You mean send him back and see if the Saudi's murder him for being a homosexual.........REALLY????????????? :eek:
     
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    Why don't Muslims like homosexuals......:confused:

    Why do liberals Love Muslims.................:confused:

    Muslims don't like homosexuals, liberals like homosexuals and liberals love Muslims, but liberals like homosexuals also, muslims hate homosexuals but their lovers the liberals like homosexual, the hell with it..........:confused:

    What a f-cked up world the Liberal Loons live in.
     
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    The article alluded to the idea that Obama may have decided to let the court system order a change in his status. Sure, that may not happen, but the admin's current decision not to grant asylum can be undone with nothing much more than a signed piece of paper and a phone call I'd expect. My comment to wait and see what happens was with respect to how the courts act and what the admin does if they don't act.
     
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    Are you freaking serious?

    We need Saudi oil so this guy must be executed because he's GAY!? REALLY?

    So which is it? You can't bring yourself to criticize Obama or you don't give a sh!t about basic human rights. Which one?
     
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    Oh...

    But why screw with this? The Saudis aren't aware that we consider their medieval system abhorrent? Maybe this would be a good mechanism for the Obamites in the WH to "give a hint" to the Saudis that they are aniumals who need to reform their stupid-ass culture and join the 20th century. We can work on the 21st century later.

    Patters?
     
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    WTF?

    Does anyone read, as opposed to skim, around here anymore?

    What is unclear about "As long as this guy doesn't face death for being gay"
     
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    Skim mostly.

    Read next post. Timing is everything.
     
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    If you do some other reading, it gets more interesting and, maybe, even more convoluted.

    Right now, JPost is the only one reporting that asylum has been denied - I'd be inclined to wait a bit and make sure the report is true.

    Even at that, if you read, rather than skim, the cited article it does not say, "Obama Admin sentences homosexual man to death," by any means.

    There are several salient facts tht B5 conveniently left out.

    1) The story about the request for asylum being denied comes from one blogger - and the JPost admits it has not verified that fact.

    2) Even the blogger himself stated that the decision to refuse asylum is not the final and lasting word on the subject.

    3) Seeing as how the man seeking asylum was previously involved in Saudi decisions to administer torture as a result of court hearings we'd probably have to know more about US policy about offering asylum to people who participated in torture in their home countries. The cynic in me says Israel would be against any country doing so regardless of the dangers to the person being returned to his homeland, don't you think?

    4) There's a good bit of hype in the last sentence of the JPost story.

    5) The truth is - there are only 4 Muslim countries which have the death penalty for homosexuals. It is not "state sponsored murder across the Muslim world." While it is true that Saudi is one of those four countries it is also true that there has not been a gay execution since 2002 in Saudi Arabia.

    Saudi Arabia's juggling act on homosexuality | Brian Whitaker | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    Please understand that I am not advocating or defending flogging or imprisonment as a punishment for being gay - I am merely stating that neither of those things is death as the OP here is claiming.
     
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    The continual hysteria based on biased blogs is amusing, maybe even cute.
     
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    I thought it was obvious that the thread title was tongue-in-cheek.

    I even added this:

    Just following forum rules (four sentences).




    So this might actually just be "karma"...interesting.

    I think that is four too many.

    Well that's a relief.
     
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    That's cool. Around here, I can't tell anymore.


    Such a sucky rule. It's so easy to leave off important information, isn't it?


    Nah, I didn't say that. I don't believe in karma. It just means that things are not always as they seem sometimes. And, if it's true that he participated in the administration of torture - the US shouldn't give him asylum, should they?

    There are people who think that even one country with a death penalty for anything is one too many.
     
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    Oh.........Battin about .185 on this thread.
     
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    I might have to change my tag to "CarlCrawford13".
     

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