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  1. patsfan13

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    The Obama campaign tires to silence thise who dare criticize the messiah, using government to stifle free speech. :mad:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5230



    So the thugs in the Obama campaign are the sole arbiters of the truth in political campaigns..:eek:
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    would you care to explain what that has to do with Marxism? I love how right wingers just chuck around words for their negative conotation without even remotely using them correctly.
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    #12 Jersey

    "The Barack Obama Truth Squad is an initiative based on pure unadulterated Marxism, a Marxism where the end justifies the means. Through the Marxist dialectic, Marxists are taught to lie and to accuse their detractors of lying. ". That about sums it up.
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    Stalin wasn't big on criticism of his policies. BTW that was the title of the article.

    How do you feel about attempts to stifle free speech using lawsuits, threats of regulatory retaliation against those who disagree with?
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    My view.....

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    Yes I said in the "Obama is a fascist" thread that I totally disagree with those tactics. But it still has absolutely nothing to do with Marxism, and neither did Stalins totalitarian government.
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    Thats the way they operate, they can't compete with Talk Radio so they want it shut down, it's a form of censorship and book burning.

    These bastards are destroying America, they want our Culture changed and the want History rewritten from the truth to their own twisted politically correct left wing bullsh!t, now they want to shut everybody up who doesn't support their Little Tin God while they continue to trash & bash anybody who opposes that Arrogant Communist Jerk Obama.
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    Read Alinsky....
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    I would imagine Churchill did not like criticism, nor did Washington or Jefferson, or whoever gives you the warm fuzzies. I'm sure there are examples of people who give you warm fuzzies acting in court to prevent libel or slander.

    Regardless: Obama's efforts do not include drafting new legislation or acting outside of the rule of law. They are efforts to enforce existing law. The existing law was made by elected legislators, and review is by a republic's duly constituted judiciary.

    This is akin to saying I'm "showing my Marxist stripes" if you steal my car and I turn you in.

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    No thank you.

    Marxism is the belief in the destruction of the bourgeoisie and the liberation of the working class, any oppressive totalitarian government or police state tactics that have arisen in it's name has nothing to do with "Marxism."

    Seriously, the right is just so ignorant sometimes it's baffling. They lump all of these "evil" words together and throw them at everyone they disagree with without bothering to distinguish.

    Let's recap:

    Obama is a communist, socialist, Marxist, fascist. Soon he'll be a Nazi guerilla freedom fighter terrorist. :rolleyes:
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    I've read Alinsky. I don't think you have. Alinsky wrote about how to do community organizing -- organizing poor people, students, and others to fight for causes such as financial aid, urban development, and so on. I'm not even certain he was a Marxist, but a follower of Alinsky does not have to be left wing. In fact, the Republicans riot in 2000 in Florida could well have been Alinsky inspired.
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    So you approve of threathing tv stations with loss of license and lawsuits if they air political ads critical of BO?

    Should the Jewish groups have been threathened with IRS audits and loss of non profit status for inviting Palin to speak at a non partisan rally???


    I am really stunned by you lefties giving BO and his thugs a pass at looking to curtail political expression. :mad:
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    Do you agree with the tactics of intimidating media outlets who air ads critical of Obama?
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    I think the nature of politics today is to do what's necessary and within the law to win. I do not think dishonest ads should be aired, and there's nothing wrong with attempting to stifle them. Obama's action is certainly no worse than the absurd theater of the House condemning the General Betrayus ad. You reap what you sow.
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    #91 Jersey

    The Pubs have been engaged in this type of action for years, Remember about 3-4 months ago when a elderly librarian was arrested for carrying a sign at a McCain rally? Then when a journalist asked why she was being arrested she was arrested also. So whats your beef?

    And while were here do you have any other "names" you'd like to throw out there and see if they stick. Although I think your running out,maybe you should just get it over with and toss out the "N" word. ;)
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    Regarding "The Jewish Groups": Were synagogs sending delegations to a Palin rally? Exactly how is a rally non partisan if a member of a party's ticket is the invited speaker? Exactly what established law or reg was broken?

    If you mean do I support separation of church and state regardless of whether that means synagogs as well as churches, of course I do.

    Do I agree with lawsuits against people who put libelous ads on the air? Oh hell yes. Don't you? Do you support the eradication of libel and slander laws?
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    So basically, this is solely the province of Marxists. I don't quite understand how the Marxist, or for that matter, Hegelian dialectic teaches Marxists to lie, but if it's only Marxists who "lie and... accuse their detractors of lying," then obviously, Rove and Atwater were the pawns of the Reds.

    It's more pernicious than I thought!

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    Alls fair in love and war. I agree. But it is our duty to fight back and call BHO on it. Heck, it might even backfire.

    I'm sure to a dem the court case BHO and the Dem party are in right now seems like sorta kinda the same thing. Obama Crimes, court case

    Of course I think BHO is wrong on both accounts. But it's perspective, right?
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    Point is they are not talking about libel they are attacking the stations that run the ads, with loss of license for running the ads. I have no problem with libel, I do have a problem with restricting groups from putting their message out to the public.

    Don't you?


    Should groups be threatened with punitive IRS audits for having an 'unapproved' spaker at a rally?


    Libel is one thing using the government to threathen and intimidate bystanders o the political process is quite another.


    I am really shocked by the reaction to this type of thuggery.

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