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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I keep thinking Pees is unsigned after this year and Saban had some interest in him as his DC last year but Belichick wouldn't let him go. Can anyone confirm or deny this ?Box_O_Rocks said:There's a reason Pepper Johnson and Dean Pees are on the staff - insurance. And Collier has had a year watching Mangini play musical DBs.....
T-ShirtDynasty said:Anybody care to post some highlights (cough) of the NYT article? One of the few sites I don't have a dummy login to.
Thanks
We all scream for Tice scream!The new era of the Jets began 10 minutes behind schedule Monday with a joke.
Terry Bradway, the team's general manager, strode into the second-floor meeting room at the practice facility, stopped at the sight of the assembled cameramen and reporters and said, "Get my good side, please." He paused before saying, "If there is one."
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Jim Haslett, the recently deposed coach of the New Orleans Saints, met with Bradway yesterday morning. He had a record of 35-45 with the Saints after leading them to a 10-6 record and the franchise's only playoff victory in his first year with the team.
Bradway said he had also set up interviews with Joe Vitt, an assistant for 27 years who went 4-7 this season as the St. Louis Rams' interim coach, and the Jets' top three assistants: the defensive coordinator, Donnie Edwards; the offensive coordinator, Mike Heimerdinger; and the special-teams coach/assistant head coach, Mike Westhoff.
Bradway clammed up when asked if he had requested permission to talk to the New England Patriots' defensive coordinator, Eric Mangini.
Mangini, 34, has at least two things working in his favor: he is a Bill Belichick disciple who even went to Belichick's alma mater, Wesleyan. And he knows what it is like to work for the Jets, having spent 1997-99 as the Jets' defensive assistant/quality control coach.
In all, Mangini has spent 10 of his 11 seasons as an N.F.L. assistant working under Belichick or closely with him.
"I'm not going to comment," Bradway said when asked about Mangini.
"We're going to get the best guy for the job that we can," he added, saying he had no timetable for making the hire.
Any timetable involving Mangini would be a tricky one. Under N.F.L. guidelines, the Jets could interview him this week, in Foxborough, Mass., but would not be able to speak with him again until the Patriots were eliminated from postseason play. New England plays a second-round playoff game Saturday night in Denver.
Meanwhile, Mike Tice, who was fired as coach after a tumultuous season in Minnesota, will interview with Bradway next week. Tim Lewis, the Giants' defensive coordinator, is also on Bradway's list, he said.
Mike Sherman, fired last week after his first losing season in six years at Green Bay, "is not coming in at this point," Bradway said. "He is on the radar screen, but not initially."
Translation: We mugged the devil out of those yokels!Bradway's depiction of events was different. "I wanted him back and Woody wanted him back," he said.
"This was Herm's decision to go to Kansas City," he added, "and we allowed that to happen with the compensation of the fourth-round pick."
Dismissing the idea that he let Edwards go to the Chiefs for little in return, Bradway said, "The fact that Herm wanted to go to Kansas City and we were able to get something was good."
'Course they are... just a classic case of Pats envy.BelichickFan said:Jester fans are hot for our boy Mangini :
http://www.jetsinsider.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107642
48% picked him as their choice.
Pees, stay in Foxboro with the current dynasty and learn under the hand of the man who taught his Nicktator mentor, or go help the Nicktator salvage the sashimi for chowder? Tough call.BelichickFan said:I keep thinking Pees is unsigned after this year and Saban had some interest in him as his DC last year but Belichick wouldn't let him go. Can anyone confirm or deny this ?
Regarding Pepper, I'm not sure Belichick would hand the reigns over to him yet. Rob Ryan would seem like a possibility, did the Raiders fire the whole staff or just Turner ?
All there is now is Head Coach and Assistant Coach. Belichick was under no obligation to allow Pees to get out of his contract to go from LB coach to DC and I'm almost certain Saban asked permission and was denied.Box_O_Rocks said:The NFL rules on asst. coaches allows them to be poached for a higher position, BB shouldn't have been able to prevent Pees from leaving if he reached an accomodation with Nick.
BelichickFan said:I couldn't find a definitive article thanks to the Herald charging for their premium articles but if you look at this link you'll find lots of references to the denial of permission for Saban to talk to Pees :
http://www.google.com/search?q=pees+denied+permission+to+talk+to+saban&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N
It did not appear to be a BB trait, especially for a guy who seems to inspire some loyalty amongst his assistants, to deny one of his an opportunity to advance. Naughty Fan, for penance say 53 'In BB I Trust's and chant Go Pats every hour on the hour for two days.2005-01-22
[Palm Beach Post] The Dolphins have interviewed three candidates for defensive coordinator, but their top choice remains elusive.
"They seem like they want to wait to see what happens with the Patriots," the source said. "It looks like they want to talk to Dean Pees before they decide anything."
Because of league rules, the Dolphins can't interview Pees, who is in his first season as New England's linebackers coach, until the end of the Patriots' post-season run.
The former Kent State coach served as Nick Saban's defensive coordinator at both Toledo and Michigan State.
I'm sure he denied permission. He'd already lost Weis, Crennel and Davidson. Enough was enough.Box_O_Rocks said:It did not appear to be a BB trait, especially for a guy who seems to inspire some loyalty amongst his assistants, to deny one of his an opportunity to advance. Naughty Fan, for penance say 53 'In BB I Trust's and chant Go Pats every hour on the hour for two days.
A snippet out of context from the Herald archive? Hardly conclusive.BelichickFan said:I'm sure he denied permission. He'd already lost Weis, Crennel and Davidson. Enough was enough.
I wish the Herald archive was free but this snipet is enough to figure out the rest : "requested, and unofficially was denied, permission to interview linebackers coach Dean Pees regarding Miami's"
Box_O_Rocks said:Rob Ryan jumped too soon, he can come back as a position coach.