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  1. Harry Boy

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    Wait until this country goes to the polls in 2012, revolution right around the corner.
    88 years the democrats held this seat then along came "Jug Ears"

    DRUDGE REPORT 2011®
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    Koch strikes again!!!


    (Ed this time)
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    The Left has Soros
    The Right has Koch
    America


    David H. Koch in 1996. He and his brother Charles are lifelong libertarians and have quietly given more than a hundred million dollars to right-wing causes.

    Charles Koch;David Koch;Koch Industries;Libertarians;Tea Party Movement;Rich People;EnvironmentOn May 17th, a black-tie audience at the Metropolitan Opera House applauded as a tall, jovial-looking billionaire took the stage. It was the seventieth annual spring gala of American Ballet Theatre, and David H. Koch was being celebrated for his generosity as a member of the board of trustees; he had recently donated $2.5 million toward the company’s upcoming season, and had given many millions before that. Koch received an award while flanked by two of the gala’s co-chairs, Blaine Trump, in a peach-colored gown, and Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, in emerald green. Kennedy’s mother, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, had been a patron of the ballet and, coincidentally, the previous owner of a Fifth Avenue apartment that Koch had bought, in 1995, and then sold, eleven years later, for thirty-two million dollars, having found it too small.

    The gala marked the social ascent of Koch, who, at the age of seventy, has become one of the city’s most prominent philanthropists. In 2008, he donated a hundred million dollars to modernize Lincoln Center’s New York State Theatre building, which now bears his name. He has given twenty million to the American Museum of Natural History, whose dinosaur wing is named for him. This spring, after noticing the decrepit state of the fountains outside the Metropolitan Museum of Art, Koch pledged at least ten million dollars for their renovation. He is a trustee of the museum, perhaps the most coveted social prize in the city, and serves on the board of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, where, after he donated more than forty million dollars, an endowed chair and a research center were named for him.

    One dignitary was conspicuously absent from the gala: the event’s third honorary co-chair, Michelle Obama. Her office said that a scheduling conflict had prevented her from attending. Yet had the First Lady shared the stage with Koch it might have created an awkward tableau. In Washington, Koch is best known as part of a family that has repeatedly funded stealth attacks on the federal government, and on the Obama Administration in particular.

    Read more The Billionaire Koch Brothers’ War Against Obama : The New Yorker
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    #95 Jersey

    [FONT=Calibri, sans-serif] From The Washington Post of all places


    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]NY-9: Oh yes, Obama has a Jewish problem[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]By Jennifer Rubin[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]<<<<In the end, it wasn’t even close. In a 58 percent Democratic congressional district, the most Jewish congressional district in the country and one that has not voted for a Republican representative since 1922, Republican political newcomer Bob Turner creamed Democrat David Weprin 54 percent to 46 percent in the special election in New York’s 9th Congressional District. Former New York mayor Ed Koch had called the election a referendum on President Obama’s Israel policy. Democratic assemblyman Dov Hikind crossed party lines to endorse Turner and make a point of his dissatisfaction with Obama.<<<<<[/FONT]
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    The best comparison may be Jimmy Carter in 1976 and 1980. He went from 64% to 39% in the subsequent election among Jewish voters. Obama carried 78% last time and he won't be anywhere close to it this election. And in swing states in the Northeast like NJ, PA and Florida, that could be very important.


    http://www.njdc.org/site/page/jewish_vote_for_obama_exceeds_all_expectations
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    The best part is the pathetic attempt the dems made trying to put a positive spin on the situation.

    “It’s a very difficult district for Democrats,” said Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

    They held that spot for about 90 years! :rofl: :rofl:
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    You say this based on what, exactly?
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    The election in a district with a large Jewish population......:singing:


    He is anti Israel and the Jewish community is figuring it out and isn't happy about it.
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    I wouldn't make too much of a special election like this. The voting block in this district isn't exemplary of mainstream voters. The issues here were specific to both NY politics, and Jewish related issues, as much, if not more so, than anything else. Is it good for Obama and the Dems? Of course not, but it's not the crystal ball that some on the right may feel it is. Just my 2 cents.
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    You're aware that Jews aren't a homogenous political group, right?

    And a big LOL to the claim that Obama is anti-Israel. What a crock.
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    The dem registrations outnumber pubs 3-1, the dems had won this district for 45 strait races. Obama dominated the Jewish vote in the last election, Ed Koch says Obama is anti Israel. I'll take his word over yours.
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    It's like you just strung a bunch of unrelated points together and expected it to generate a coherent argument.

    Try again.
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    Koch isn't happy with Obama's supposed lack of commitment to Israel, but where has he said Obama is "anti Israel"?

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    The real question then becomes, where would a decline in the Jewish vote impact Obama's re-election chances, and how substantial would the decline need to be?

    This may also go back to the ongoing conversation yesterday and in the past re. the GOP nomination. Koch has said he won't vote for an extremist on the right -- while he clearly is a Dem, he's a pretty moderate Dem who has supported Republicans in the past, I believe. Despite the importance of Israel to him, he's a guy who isn't voting for a far right Republican, either.
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    Hey, Meriam-Webster, it's "homogeneuous", not homogenous. :p See how stupid doing this is.

    If by homogeneous you mean to imply that Jews don't vote in unison for one party, over the other, like say African Americans, I'd say that's entirely not true. The last time a dem presidential candidate got less than 75% of the jewish vote was 20+ years ago in 1988 when Dukakis only managed to pull in 64% of jews. To find the last time a republican candidate managed to crack 40% of jewish voters, you have to go all the way back to Eisenhower who got an even 40% in 1956. Since 1916 only 3 republicans have broken 40% with jews, with the peak being 45% by Charles Hughes (1916 vs Wilson). No republican has ever reached 50%. So while they aren't the guaranteed 90% year in and year out that blacks are, they're not too far behind.

    I wouldn't go far as to say that Obama is anti-Israel, but he certainly has earned the perception of being less friendly than most of his predecesors. I think Obama is more Carter, than say Bush or even Clinton on Israel. If you're a jew, and you are uncustomed to recieving unwavering support for your homeland, then anything less will be viewed negatively, regardless of merrit.
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    A good friend of mind is a Reform movement rabbi with a fairly large congregation. He supports the two state solution but is freaking out over the UN trying to unilaterally establish Palestine. There's something going on here.

    (EDIT: He's also liberal -- strong Clinton to Obama supporter)
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    Obama is under 50% (46%) approval rating in Cali.......ruh roh,

    According the latest Field poll, the implosion continues, any pub will win in a landslide over President Zero.

    Obama below 50% approval in … California? « Hot Air


    With the administration predicting 9% unemployment he will be a one termer like J Carter.
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    What did the poll say about him versus Perry, Bachman or Romney?
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    Senate Democrats reject Obama jobs plan:


    Hill Dems pick apart Obama jobs plan - POLITICO.com Print View

    Obama lame duck waddling.
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    #95 Jersey

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    It was plenty coherent to anyone with a IQ north of Forrest Gump's.

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