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    #54 Jersey

    This is very true. Not to turn this into a regional issue, but I strongly suspect that if this happened off the coast of New Jersey and threatened NYC, and the weekend beach retreats of the high rollers in DC and NYC, like the Maryland/Delaware beaches and Long Island, there would have been a much more effective and robust response to this disaster.
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    Id like to believe thats not true, but from what I have seen, not sure anymore.
    I mean think about it we have almost 40,000 people out of work in N.O. alone in fishing and tourism because of this , alone, and 20,000 of them got a check from BP for 5,000. That was 3-4 weeks ago, how are you going to provide for your family. Besides that now those same guys have to wake up at 5 am walk to a BP cleanup station and hope they will be picked by the company that ruined their lives for $10 and hr to help clean up. They only pick 50% of the guys every morning that come. Like illegal immigrants every morning at a 7-11 looking for work. Fisherman, who have been fishing these waters for generations have to put their pride aside and provide for their families.
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    #54 Jersey

    Not to mention that the health hazard these fishermen face is at best undetermined, and at worst, potentially catastrophic.

    It's very disappointing to be sure. I'm beginning to wonder if the people of Louisiana and Mississippi are beginning to have doubts that the government is really looking out for them between Katrina and this disaster. I wouldn't blame them for it.

    Your info says you split time between NO and Virginia. Are you in Louisiana now?
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    No, I work at Goddard Space Flight Center as a mission specialist in Maryland, I will be down there in 2-3 weeks again, to join in the clean up as part of a crew, only time I could get off. I have a house in Metairie, N.O. , I was there 2 weeks ago.

    I thought this would bind the wounds of before and make Louisiana trust our nation again, that is just not happening from what I have seen and heard from friends there. I plan on doing my own pictures and reporting when I get back. I will post them here, and I can not think of anyone on the ground that has a higher access than I do right know, so no one should be able to stop me or take anything I own. I have some privy to satellite photos and even I noticed that the enormity of the spill was not expressed, we have no idea what is under the ocean. logically no drilling operation drills for 5000-15000 barrels a day, you cant make money, so I do not know why the media didn't pick that up when it blew up. Consider at 15,000 barrels a day at $75 a barrel = 1,250,000 a day. It cost them a million to run that rig every day, and how much to dig the longest pipe in history? Makes no sense.

    BP knows how much this well excretes, they knew it before they drilled it its good business. Our estimates are the well is leaking 40,000 - 60,000 barrels a day before they cut it. When they cut it for Top Hat it could be 80,000-120,000 barrels a day. This is the medium number not the highball. The media is using the lowball only at 25,000 barrels. There is probably allot more oil we are not seeing under the surface.

    Im not an expert in visual velocity, but my dad was a Volcanologist, and I used to spend hours watching boring films of underwater volcanos, while waiting for him to finish working, this looks like one. I could be very mistaken, but my uneducated guess is its been shooting 80,000-90,000 barrels in to the Gulf all along. But Bp will not release the pipe diameter that they sunk so its hard to get a estimate.

    To put that into persecutive, 257,000 barrels of oil where spilt by Exxon Valdez, to date I would say we have 4,240,000 - 4,770,000 barrels spilled in the Gulf. If they are getting 20,000 barrels a day as BP says it is, that still leaves 60,000-70,000 barrels still leaking into the Gulf. No way I can be accurate but from what I am seeing its not to far off.

    Does this look like what your seeing from space of this spill ? 19,000 barrels would only be 1,007,000 barrels by now.
    thats only 4x larger ( this is Prestige spilled the same as Valdez)
    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...&ndsp=20&tbs=isch:1&ei=q_oRTJ-2DIXGlQex7pnsBw

    These are the publicly released from NASA, you tell me, but that aint 19,000 barrels a day, that dog wont hunt.
    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/oil-spill-video.html
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    This arrogant young fool, America's "dear leader" President Jug Ears now after all this time has decided to meet with the BP President, this "token clown" we have for a president should be on TV every day informing the people of what is being done even if nothing can be done God Damn Stinking Obama is our leader and he should drop everything for this, racism is a terrible thing it gave us a pompous fool for a president.

    Finally Messiah Meets The BP Big Shot
    BP chairman summoned to Obama meeting over oil spill - Yahoo! News
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    Truth. If I were them the LAST thing I'd trust would be the government. Or BP but the collusion between the two is well documented so it's a wash there I guess. My question is ( I tend to think on the dark side when it comes to some things:D) what's to be gained by economically and physically destroying LA? Control, but of what? The oil industry? Katrina was like ethnic cleansing, this is far beyond even that. Obama himself said this spill will result in a severe economic backlash not just for LA but for the country.

    Then there are those so-called clean-up workers on the beach; two hour lunches and a schedule of 15 min working and 15 min off, 15 min working and 15 min off. They no longer comment to the media after they were bagged hanging out under their tent for hours on end and had no solid answers for the reporter who asked them about it. Now they say "no comment" or nothing at all.
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    Im not that good at the Dark side. But the Wetlands have been a constant thorn in the Oil industries sides down here. Louisiana has huge untapped oil deposits and natural gas

    http://dnr.louisiana.gov/sec/execdiv/techasmt/policy/wetlands/AW_AmericasEnergyCorridor_Revised.pdf

    Our local government is always fighting with the federal government about the expansion of these industries. Allot of these wells were forced by the Federal branch, and or mineral rights given to companies without the State governments consent (BP was one, I remember hearing about that 4 or so years ago ).
    The wetlands have been used against these attempts time and time again, and they are a very effective weapon to halt the gas industry. We have a couple hundred endangered species that live in the gulf around New Orleans, and in the wetlands, 74 are were that oil well is spilling.

    Thats about as dark as I get,lol.
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