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  1. Holy Diver

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    #80 Jersey

    NRA: Don't ban gun sales to suspects

    SAM HANANEL | AP | May 4, 2007 05:40 PM EST

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070504/terror-suspects-guns


    WASHINGTON — The National Rifle Association is urging the Bush administration to withdraw its support of a bill that would prohibit suspected terrorists from buying firearms. Backed by the Justice Department, the measure would give the attorney general the discretion to block gun sales, licenses or permits to terror suspects.

    In a letter this week to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, NRA executive director Chris Cox said the bill, offered last week by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., "would allow arbitrary denial of Second Amendment rights based on mere 'suspicions' of a terrorist threat."

    "As many of our friends in law enforcement have rightly pointed out, the word 'suspect' has no legal meaning, particularly when it comes to denying constitutional liberties," Cox wrote.




    I don't even know where to begin on this, so:


    discuss....
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    I'm going to have to hold my nose and back the NRA here, innocent until proven guilty and all.
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    Okaaaaaaaay, you want a better one. Texas Gov. Perry stated that it would be better that people had permits for concealed handguns and that they could bring these handguns to; school, church, court, and......bars. I kid you not.
  4. DarrylS

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    NRA has a place in the order of things, but in this case they seem to be really off base... surprised that this group, who seem to reflect the law and order side of the US, would be opposed to this.
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    Liberal Democrats and Memberes Of The ACLU must be sneaking into the NRA.

    Don't Liberals call this FREEDOM and CIVIL LIBERTIES :confused:
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    DUH......NO... you are really confused!!!!
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    The NRA exists for the sole purpose of resisting any restrictions imposed by the government on the right to bear arms. They are extreme in their scope and message because the government - especially the domestic police - seem intent on restricting the Second to the point of making it useless. I generally support their mission, but they do cross the line occasionally. This is not a case of that.

    When the government "suspects" someone of being a terrorist, what does that mean? Is that a special case where suspicion is equivalent to guilt? If someone has done something wrong, and the government can prove it, fine. Arrest the SOB, put him in jail, try him and convict him. Otherwise, leave them alone to enjoy all their rights like everyone else. It's called due process, and you can't throw it out the window just because you don't like guns or are afraid of terrorism.

    I know the Constitution is inconvenient and sometimes imperfect, but it's all we have that makes us Americans. Everything else is artificial. Those who oppose the 2nd Ammendment can organize a movement to adopt a new Ammendment. It's been done. I'd like to abolish the IRS, but I can't get 200 million people to climb on board yet.
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    Liberals And The ACLU Should Rejoice

    Freedom And Civil Liberties Have Prevailed

    God Is Great

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    Nobody will let Uncle Teddy drive.
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    You know it's not the Osama bin Laden's (who?) of the world that the NRA are trying to protect... it's the Timmy McVeigh's.
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    #75 Jersey

    I thought McVeigh used a bomb? You mean he did all that with a gun? WOW!
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    David Koresh, Richard Butler, David Duke... they have a right to own guns too because the government is out to get them. :rolleyes:
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    #75 Jersey

    If they have committed no crime and are citizens, they do.
  13. Real World

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    No sh!t.

    Change the specifics of the point in question (guns), and keep the word "suspected" as a constant. Let's see how quickly people in here would support prohibiting the constitutional rights of american citizens simply because the government wanted them to.
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    Hitler would be proud of this statement...
  15. Terry Glenn is a cowgirl

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    No. The alphabet agencies (NSA, FBI, FEMA, BATF, etc.) did the damage... Tim and Terri were the scapegoats for it though.

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