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Will the 2012-13 Patriots beat the 2007 Patriots record of 589 points?

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  1. Yes/probably

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  2. Possibly/They'll make a run at it

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  3. Maybe/Not sure

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  4. Probably not

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  5. No chance

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  1. NEP4Life

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    Is the 2007 team's record of 589 points in jeopardy?
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    I think they have the talent to do it if for some reason they really wanted too, but I don't see it happening.

    The offenses are effectively the same (although a bit older) with moss being swapped out for lloyd and the 2 TEs added, which you could argue is better than in 07.

    But I don't see it happening because we seem to be going back to a more balanced offensive approach, instead of spread all the time like in 07. It could be a more effective offense, but probably not as flashy. Plus in 07 we did run up the score quite a bit, which I see no reason for this year. If we are up a lot we will probably grind it out, and maybe even Mallett/Hoyer can get in there to stir up some trade possibilities.
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    I hope not.

    The more Brady throws the ball, the more his arm wears down, and the more he will get hit.


    If anything, Pats should be running the ball more and more as the years go on and save Brady for when they really need him.
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    I think we will be able to get many more YPC than 2011 due the the more diverse defense, and the running game I think will be significantly better. Shane Vereen, Stevan Ridley, Brandon Bolden, Danny Woodhead. Short dump offs to RB's are not as hard on the arm, I expect 50 of those spread between the RB's at least, most going to Vereen and Woodhead. I think that Mallet/Hoyer could be put in in the 4th quarter for talent evaluation, because why play Brady when you are up by 20 points? I could see Brady throwing for 4800-5200 yards, Mallet 800-1200 yards, and Hoyer 400-600 yards.
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    Who cares. I just want a good year and long postseason
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    I don't think so. As previously stated, NOBODY on this team touches Moss on his prime.

    HOWEVER, I really believe that this offense will be far more efficient. More long drives as opposed to 60-70 yard bombs to Moss.

    I really CANNOT wait any longer for the season to start. This is killing me
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    More run less pass in 2012,we will see a better balanced team unless Ridley drops the ball (pun intended)

    No chance to beat 07...... Might be closer to 500
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    the wild card no one is considering is the D.

    If the pieces BB added this off-season get us a top 10 defense; then look-out they could have a significant shot at the points record; it is the yardage record that i think will then be unlikely.

    For sure i would hope we run a lot more than we did last year for balance (multi-dimensional threat) and protecting brady and also just developing players (rbs). But even if Pats are running more and moving slower down field; if your D is giving you 40-55 yds to EZ instead of 80; you are going to walk away with points.
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    Do not care if they score 600 or 500 points, all that is important is W's... if we win the 19th game, then any statistic is just a number.
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    There's a chance that they probably maybe might and a chance that they probably maybe won't.
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    Good point about drive length. The Patriots could get as many points/possession and still get fewer points/game.

    Even more of a factor is whether the defense is able to get off the field (and thus let the offense back on ...)
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    We've seen Brady do More with Less & More with More so anything is possible with him under snap. He threw for over 5,000 yds last year and why not be around that number again this year with most pts per game. With that said Goal IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE Pats having More Pts than NFC Team in last game in Post Season In New Orleans!
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    Gronk tied Moss's record for most TDs in the first 2 years of a career.
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    It's possible, but I doubt it.

    The 2010 Pats had 518 points, the 2011 Pats had 513 points. These are your most prolific Pats scoring teams outside of 2007.

    At the halfway point in 2007, the Pats had 331 points :eek: (and note this does not include the 56 in Buffalo). In the second half, they coasted (;)) with *only* 258 points. Even their "bad" half of that year would have prorated to a 516 point season.

    The 2010 Pats put up the best 8-game finish at 299 points, followed closely by the 2011 Pats at 291. Both finishes were superb, but note the 2011 finish would not prorate at > 589. It would take a whole season of incredible scoring like the 2nd half of 2010 to have a shot.

    Let's see 2007's first half and 2010's 2nd half and blow the roof off the record at 630 points.

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    :eek:The only way that happens, would be if Brady misses 75% of the games due to injury.

    F that. I want to run up the score.:cool:
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    if Brady missed 75% of the games due to injury and still threw 4800-5200 that would be the greatest feat in sports history.
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    Yeah well.:p I was only looking at the silly Mallet, Hoyer numbers.:rolleyes:
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    With a 21 point lead heading into the 4th quarter I would like to see Hoyer and Mallet in and let them do what they can do. Numbers may be a bit high, but I think that putting them in and letting them pass would be great for development and experience. Mallet will get more play in garbage time because he will be on the roster longer. Ideally I would like for Brady to not have to play at all in the 4th quarter. This hasn't been the Pat's style in the past but Brady getting older I would like to see him pulled late in the game when the outcome is already decided to avoid injury.
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    6500 yards? Sorry, that is ridiculous.
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    I would not rule out around 6000, about 375 yards a game. 300ish for Brady and 75 for Hoyer/Mallet
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    That is almost 20% more than the record before last year.
    You expect Brady to throw for 4800 and sit enough for backups to throw for 1200?
    I would imagine the backups would have to play more than 1/3 of the game time to do that. assuming we don't have a big lead and they come in to hand off. So Brady is the equivalent of 7200 yards playing 60 minutes, in your estimation.
    Seriously, you are out of touch with reality.
    Aside from 2008, Bradys backups probably haven't COMBINED for 1200 yards in all the years he has been here.
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    Brady could throw for 100 yards per quarter, sit the entire 4th quarter with backups playing throwing for 75 yards in the 4th quarter. Instead of running down the clock at the end of blowouts let the backups show what they can do that's all I'm saying.
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    Screw 2007. That team blew the doors open on the NFL for about 10 games and coasted on fumes the rest of the way. They couldn't finish the job. And as others stated, Brady having to throw enough to break his own personal record from last season is a terrible thing. Give me a balanced offense that doesn't have a "blueprint" to be beat.

    Everyone in that "band" is also five years older. And a couple are post major injuries.
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    I think people underestimate the effect of moss on that team. Plus the offensive line has had issues since then too in big games and now with light out and changes on the line its hard to predict how it turns out. Not to mention our division teams are far tougher now than in 2007.Also that team really escaped the injury bug most of the season. That is a huge factor for every team.
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    Interesting. The final results are relitively close, with 26 voting "yes" or "possibly", and 29 "probably not" or "no chance" votes.
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    Before 07, throwing 50 TDs and 8 INTs would have been considered rediculous.
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    That means that if Brady played full time he would throw for 6400 yards. That is ridiculous. No one has ever come close to 100 yards a quarter.
    You are also saying that our backups would throw for the equivalent of 4800 yards. That means our backup QB would be so productive that if we played them all 4 quarters they would rank 10th all time in NFL history and fall just 6 yards short of 2007 Tom Brady.
    I think you need to reconsider this one.
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    But 6500 yards is the equvialent of 63 TDs and 5 Ints
    And I'm not sure how ridiculous 50 was when the record was already 49.
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