Notice how MNF, Gruden, Dilfer showed the Pats are different..

[NEGoldenAge]

Newman is a known Jets fan. Why are you guys feeding the troll?

 

[tests]

Call me crazy, but brady at times (actually a lot of times) seems like he is aloof...

Sometimes it seems he might think he is better than everyone else, but i dunno.

 

[TB=TD]

Newman is a known Jets fan. Why are you guys feeding the troll?

Because a troll with a full belly goes to sleep in his cave quicker

 

[Lurks_All_Day]

Buck Buck Buh-kaaawwwwkkkk!!!

Look, that Chefs team were gunning hard for a win last night. Their D played well above themselves, for a quarter and a half. But they are the Chefs; three points is all they earned.

You seem to think otherwise; you think that TFB was himself for the first half, then magically turned into Superman.

Which is it?

 

[lurker1965]

I enjoyed Dilfer for the most part last night.

I forget who was trying to stir up drama with the "running up the score" nonsense but one of the announcers brought it up like 10 times in the final 2 minutes. Dilfer refused to bite, and basically said if you don't like it, stop it.

Did anyone say anything when the Saints scored 60 something on the Colts?

Re: Dilfer, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that opposing offenses are game planning for Andre Carter.

Shh!

The score doesn't mean anything to me. The Pats didn't have to show up, literally, and they were still going to walk out with a win. There was nothing impressive about that win. Any half decent team would have blown them out.

I don't buy it is just the injury. Yes, I notice the bone bruise in his elbow is causing some of his throws to not look as crisp. Which leads me to think that injury could be more serious than we all think. That's not what has me the most concern about Brady.

There's something else about him that's just really off. He looks easily rattled and shaken in the pocket more than ever this season. His pocket awareness, field vision, and poise has all plummet.

So no one said "WTF" on the first possession for the game, where Brady saw a little pressure, and panicked, and just threw the ball away? I mean really? I

That was so bizarre. It was so not Tom Brady like I thought I was imagining that.

There were plenty of other times Brady just looked completely uncomfortable, and unsure of himself whenever there was a hint of pressure. It is quite obvious he is really struggling with blitz happy teams that don't give him clean pockets as of late. It's like drilled into his head now.

I never thought I'd say this. Right now, it feels so EASY to defend Brady. Just bring pressure, the entire game, and it will get to him. Whenever a team gets a little pressure, it has disrupted his rhythm completely! This is Tom Brady, a HOF QB! It's not suppose to be that easy!

I'm sure everyone wants to pretend like this is not a problem now. Just wait until it becomes the Pats undoing in a big game. Fans will feel differently then.

Romeo Crennel is not an idiot. He surprised them. They showed them pouring over the stills. Then they adjusted. You're actually surprised that Crennell is not stupid?

Ron Borges has coined a good name for the NE defense - "The Who"

It fits. Molden. Who? Love. Who? Arrington. Who? Nobody knows who these guys are.

Butch Cassidy in 5 Seconds - YouTube Who are those guys? from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - just hope they don't face the Bolivian Army.

 

[Lurks_All_Day]

I think it's pretty clear to any objective observer that Brady IS in decline...


































...is what I expect to be saying in about 7 or 8 years.

I was so fired up to blast you.... Then I scrolled.

 

[robbomango]

P_N is correct, Brady is not the same as last year....

i dont know what it is, but Brady really is NOT Brady right now....and any stats can be used, im just going by the way I see a player play the game, as compared to seeing him play it for the past decade


Brady is still above average, but right now he is NOT other-wordly...which is not being Brady

I get what your saying ALP but expecting other-wordly will only let fans down in the end. can't have a 158.3 rtng all the time, geez.

dug up this P_N post, lmao

You got to wonder if the season ends badly for the Patriots, and they miss the playoffs(like I predicted they would) that they should consider entertaining the prospects of trading Brady.

concerned fan or sewage rat?

 

[NEGoldenAge]

I get what your saying ALP but expecting other-wordly will only let fans down in the end. can't have a 158.3 rtng all the time, geez.

dug up this P_N post, lmao

You got to wonder if the season ends badly for the Patriots, and they miss the playoffs(like I predicted they would) that they should consider entertaining the prospects of trading Brady.

concerned fan or sewage rat?

His Jet fan identity was uncovered a while ago. People really have to stop responding to this troll.

 

[Bostonian1962]

After a fine game (thankful for Vereen and Cannon showing up on the playing field) which featured the good (all things Gronk!,Law Firm, Brady, "No-Name Defense") and the bad (Light and Connolly injuries), I wanted to highlight a few things about yesterday's broadcast that show the Pats are different or treated differently.

First, Gruden prides himself on getting the stars of MNF game to come in to his "lair" or bus and chat while watching video. Guess who did NOT show up: Tom Brady. Brady is a superstar who does not sit for such interviews -- Aaron Rogers and Drew Brees do. Of course, Gruden had the ever-classy Bob Kraft as a substitute.

Second, noticed how Gruden & Jaws kept marveling at the many role players on the Pats. Of course our now famous collection of "no-Name Defense" made up of other teams rejects, undrafted agents drew substantial comment. Gruden noted that Merriweather and Sanders were cut before the season and now the Pats had Adams, Molden and Moore. All commentators sounded like they were shaking their heads that the defense was playing as well as it has.

Then in the post-game show, Dilfer played the skeptic. "Yes, they have numerous sacks but they really don't have an impressive pass rush." He concluded, the Pats don;t have anyone the opposing team feared, no one offenses had to game play for". None of this is surprising. What this tells us is that experts hold the Pats to a higher standard. The more critical scrutiny is a form of complement. What they are overlooking is that the Pats are constantly improving, the "No-name Defense" has held in and are growing, our defense did not commit many penalties. The people BB cut are not exactly lighting it up for their new teams, which speak to his judgment.

As a counterpoint, have you noticed that Ron Borges was very complimentary of the Pats defensive performance last night. Who says a leopard can't change his stripes?

I thought leopards had spots.

 

[AzPatsFan]

I'm sorry, but what Dilfer said was true. Honestly, there was some truth to what both Gruden and Dilfer said.

Yes, the collection of this 'no name' defense, that's able to at times make the big plays is really a praise to Bill Belichick, and what a great coach he is.

However, let's be real clear. The Patriots were suppose to crush the Chiefs. Their QB has been cut form numerous different leagues, and this was his very first start. And at times, he was having his way.

This defense is going to get shredded like before once they play against good to great QB's.

There are a lot of concerns for the Patriots. It was nice they got the win, despite Brady looking downright terrible to me last night. He had a lot of guys bail him out, but he himself looked horrible. It is GOOD that the Pats were able to win despite Brady, but let's look at the opponent.

I'm really worried about Brady, and that's something I thought I'd never say. I don't know if he's hurt, or what, but he looks off. Outside the Jets game he's been looking pretty average, to bad for consecutive weeks.

If Brady can't start playing like the Tom Brady we know, then this team is going to have a lot of problems going forward.

The Patriots overall didn't look that impressive last night despite the score. If they play like they did next week, don't expect the same result. The Eagles looked really good, and that could be a letdown for the Pats.

Yes Brady seems off of YOUR expectations. He only has the second highest QB rating in the League, and has thrown more TDs than anyone else. He is really pretty bad.

/sarc off

 

[Absurdly Metro]

Something is off with Brady. I've sensed it for weeks now. I don't think it is just his injury alone, unless it is much more serious than we thought.

Brady is in a mental drought. He for some reason doesn't feel as comfortable in the pocket.

I don't know why that is so outrageous for me to point this out, especially when it is so obvious!!

Looks to me like the only one it's obvious to is you.

The eyes sees what the mind looks for dude.

 

[Dragda]

Teams are really figuring out how to get to Brady. It's a concern. A legit one!

Teams are covering well in the secondary. Brady has nowhere to make quick throws. That is a coaching issue--not a Brady issue.

 

[ausbacker]

Dilfer has been going out of his way recently to point out the lack of playmakers on the D and the product of recent success coming from effort. Naturally, he's discounted the fact that the Patriots have the interception leader in the NFL and the 6th ranked sack rusher in the NFL.

We all acknowledge the defense needs improvement but it's not as bad as people have been making it out to be, especially when compared against other defenses with winning records.

 

[TruthSeeker]

The Patriots played some very sloppy football last night! Yes, they finally got it together and got the win.

If by "win" you mean "blowout win", then I agree with that part. However, I wouldn't say they played "very sloppily".

If they were going against a much better opponent, I think they would have had the doors blown off them to be honest.

Sounds like a hypothetical overreaction to me.

And really the defense is not what has me the most worried right now. Surprisingly it is the offense, and this "funk" Brady obviously still seems to be in. I thought maybe he snapped out of it last week. But he didn't. Again he looked overwhelmed with the blitz, he was getting anxiety attacks from the pocket collapsing on him. What was with the intentional grounding? Are you kidding. A guy comes near him, he just panics and throws it away right away. I mean, WTF! I think he had time to wait a split second, and deliver a strike to Branch.

He threw it right where Woodhead would have been had he not been blocked by a linebacker. TB realized that the plan had been blown up and made a reasonable decision that backfired since Woodhead couldn't even get in the area. This is not an example of TB's bad play but rather Kansas City's good play.

Maybe he's hurt! I don't know what it is, but he looked so awful last night. Even the positive plays he did make were just bail out plays from Gronk and co.

Actually, he didn't look awful. But I understand that anytime this offense doesn't put up 30+ points there are concerns from some fans. He did hold the ball too long on the strip sack but there were a number of good things he did as well. I think we just need a more balanced perspective of his performance.