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    Everything and anything to help the people. :rolleyes:


    Non-Union Utility Crews from Alabama Turned Away From Helping NJ Sandy Victims

    Volunteer crews who came to help restore power were allegedly told to leave because they are not union workers, according to a report.


    By Danielle Johnson

    | Friday, Nov 2, 2012 | Updated 9:39 AM EDT

    Several utility crews from Alabama who arrived in New Jersey to help restore power following Hurricane Sandy were allegedly told to leave because they are not union workers, according to a Huntsville television station.

    WAFF.com reports crews from Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity made their way to Seaside Heights, New Jersey this week to help get power back on for thousands of residents left in the dark. But the groups were told by crews in New Jersey that they cannot do any work because they are non-union employees, according to the report.

    Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, told the station he and his crewmates will instead head to Long Island, NY to help get power on back there.

    Seaside Heights suffered an estimated $1 billion dollars in damages from Hurricane Sandy. Many are expected to be without power for the next few days.
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    Unreal. So much for "No Red Tape".
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    Honestly, fugg the unions!

    Why would any state ALLOW unions workers to turnt them away? Who turned them away RW?

    I guarantee you that those without power don't care if union or non-union workers help get their power back.
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    Any idea of just who it was who supposedly turned them away? The power company in Jersey says it was not them.

    JCP+L Denies Turning Away Non-Union Help [AUDIO]
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    From another thread I posted:


    The union jerks at the work site turned them away.
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    Chris Christie who has avoided the hysteria....

    Could the gullibles be duped again??? Stay Tuned.
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    So we are to believe a politician over the workers who were bullied on the ground?

    Gullible indeed.

    BTW Seaside Heights can't get enough help, what a joke.
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    #87 Jersey

    If true - very sad.

    Based on the footage on the news last night (and since Monday) seems like the folks in NJ/NY/CT could use all the help they can get right now.

    Other than paying a due, what is the difference between a union lineman and a nonunion linemen?
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    Of course, they've been duped every day of they're lives.
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    What? Governor Chris Christie, darling of The Tea Party, Republicans and yourself - a liar?

    This is the guy you've touted for months as the best governor ever - possible president - real straight shooter - and now you take a media story over his own word?

    You're right....gullible indeed.

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    Got a quote for your claim I called him the best ever? I call BS. I have lauded his work on the budget, but his judicial appointments and some social issues (gay marriage for example) not so much.

    Think Christie actually talked to any of the workers chased off by the union thugs?
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    Excuse me...best in a long time.

    Think the media investigated before printing the story?
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    #87 Jersey

    OT: Been quite a few issues with that of late. See the media running with the story about the NYSE having three feet of water in it....as a result of some dude in NYC putting out a tweet about it.

    They are actually thinking about charging the guy criminally for his tweet (yet the media has no blame at all).
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    The right wants so hard to believe this stuff, they oft seem very gullible.. but of course the news report has much more veracity than the information from the NJ Governor's Office or the utility itself..


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    either that or the guy is lying
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    Unfortunately, too many will automatically believe any news or bloggers blurb that fits their internal narrative, and denounce, disbelieve, and doubt anything that runs counter to that narrative. This is America today and partisanship over-rules common sense and skepticism too frequently.
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    Just out of curiosity, do you really find it so hard to believe that a politician would lie to keep from looking bad? Really?
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    Check out the following quote from the Utility Company.. that is corraboration, which cannot be said for the initial story.. sorry, keep on believing.
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    Well they interviewed the guy who were run off and are now in VA....

    I don't believe the spin.
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    Mrs P....my guess is that Christie just doesn't want this to become a political issue period. He has gone out of his way not to make it one.

    So I can see him denouncing this story even it's true. Can't you?
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    The utility company denies it, Christie denies it....and I can't find anywhere where they've named whoever it was who supposedly told the non-union guys that they couldn't work there.

    If and when they come up with a name and a company which told them they couldn't work then I'll believe it.....as long as all the stories say things like "supposedly told" and "allegedly said," that's all it is - it's supposition and allegation without susbstance.

    There's a reason that media uses terms like "supposedly" and "allegedly" and that's because they don't have any proof that the act really occurred....that way they can tell the story, sell the paper, get the reader and maintain pausible deniability and stay safe from a libel lawsuit.
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    I don't expect you to.
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    I guess I am the only one that can imagine a scenario where this non-union crew shows up in an area with a union supervisor and the supervisor tells them that since they are non-union then they need to leave.

    Then when it is reported and would embarrass both the governor and the unionized power company, they both release statements saying it did not happen.

    Personally I think neither the governor nor the power company would turn help away, but it seems likely that someone at some point did. I think it was a mis-communication from someone that did not have the authority to make the decision. The thing that I find funny is that to protect the idea of unions all the left leaning posters automatically go on the defensive and say that these men that came to help are lying. Whatever floats your partisan boat I guess...

    P.S. I really don't care whether they were turned away or not. I have power and am not in a union.
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    A bit of an update....now the guy from Alabama is saying that they weren't "turned away," but they were asked to fill out some documents which would temporarily affilliate them with one of the local unions which they would not agree to do.

    While waiting for a resolution to the impasse the word came that the assistance needed was already being provided by someone else.

    Other utility companies from Alabama and elsewhere have not had a problem and are currently helping with storm cleanup.

    Utility crew returns home after union paperwork conflict - WAFF-TV: News, Weather and Sports for Huntsville, AL
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    A little unprofessional of the Union dudes to more or less do recruiting, but glad (and unsurprised) to see this whole thing was overblown.

    As usual.
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    Overblown? These guys show up to help and their company receives papers saying they need to sign and be affiliated with the union to work in NJ? Ha, I would have done just what they did and leave.

    You do not put conditions on someone wanting to help you. It is like a tree falls on my house and some neighbors come over and offer to help me lift the tree and I tell them that to help me they have to agree to buy cookies from my daughter.

    Unions = money = corruption. I hope this story gets a whole lot more attention.

    Read the responses to the story in that link...
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    Having dealt with unions on jobs for a long time, this is more or less what I think happened. These nonunion dudes showed up, the union dudes told them to screw, and in the end when everyone up the line got wind, it was corrected so that everyone was eventually on the same page (it was a missunderstanding you see ;)). No one wants the bad press. Not the workers from either side, nor the pols involved.
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    My fire department was not union....occasionally we would respond to extra alarms in a neighboring town which was union - when we hammered out our mutual aid agreement we had to agree to follow union rules when we were in their town.....honestly, they weren't much different than our own - but we signed the agreement and all was well.

    Towns, companies, people - they all have rules and terms that they abide by - it's not unreasonable for them to want anyone working in their town or under their supervision to follow them, too. Sometimes it's a simple pride issue, sometimes there are real legalities involved.

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