First need a good definition of cheating as proclaimed in recent news reports about the PATs. In recent context it means the QB received reliable information, not a guess, of what the opponent's defense was going to do. That reliable information was obtained by some method not legally allowed by the rules of the game. Need to agree on grounds for cheating or can't go any further. If someone has a better definition I'd like to hear it. Assuming the above definition is Ok. The key is getting reliable information of what the opponent's defense was going to do to the QB. If such reliable information was ONLY obtained by an illegal method but never made it to the QB then you have a rule violation but no cheating. So did the Patriots cheat? Did their QB get reliable information about what their opponents defense was going to do using illegal methods. I believe there is ABSOLUETLY No Proof of Cheating. IF I am wrong about this Please somebody let me know. No proof has ever been given that Patriots ever cheated. They broke a rule. Yes but Breaking a rule is Not same as Cheating. 1. A camera was illegally used to record information - Verified 2. Reliable information of what a defense was going to do was derived from step 1. ... NO PROOF 3. The information from step 2 was communicated to the QB .... No PROOF Conclusion: There is NO PROOF that PATs cheated. Not only was there No proof for the JETs game but No proof for any game PATs have ever played. ALL these accusations of PATs cheating have been based on ASSUMPTION not PROOF!