No pass rush = one and out

[E Belichick Unum]

A bit of perspective on our "disgrace" of a pass rush:

2001: 39 total sacks. Team leader-7.
2003: 41 total sacks. Team leader-9.5.
2004: 45 total sacks. Team leader-9.5.

2000: 29 total sacks. Team leader-6.
2002: 33 total sacks. Team leader-5.5.
2005: 33 total sacks. Team leader-7.
2006: 44 total sacks. Team leader-8.5.
2007: 46 total sacks. Team leader-12.5.
2008: 30 total sacks. Team leader-8 (Seymour).

2009: 31 total sacks. Team leader-10 (Seymour had 4).
2010: 36 total sacks. Team leader 5.5 (Seymour had 5.5).

The first 3 totals are from our Super Bowl victories. The rest are broken up by other years, and then the last two with our "disgrace" to the human race pass rush.

In fact, we've increased the sack totals in the two seasons since Seymour left, and the team leader has matched or exceeded Seymour's totals since he left. That's not meant as a knock against Seymour, just to show that the pass rush hasn't become significantly worse since he left.

The 36 sacks from last season would rank 6th out of 11 seasons in the BB era. This was compiled with a decimated DL, street FAs starting games, and two first-time starters at OLBs.

Not that it matters. The Pats have the worst pass rush in the history of football to some posters, and no amount of evidence will change that.

You are trying to compare apples and oranges, and arguing that because they are both round and grow on trees that they are the same thing. If you look at 2001, 2003 and 2004 there is one major element missing, a dominent OLB! Willie McGinnest was player that had to be considered whenever the QB went back to pass. In 2001 McGinnest had 6 sacks, but he had 2 in three playoff games, the team had 7 total. In 2003 Willie had 5.5 sacks, three in the post season the team had 12 total and 2004 he had 9.5 sacks, but none in the post season, the team had 6 total in the post season.

In basketball you can't teach height, in football you can't teach sack, you either can or you can't. Spreading the sack total out amongst the team is a good idea in theory, but to make it successful you have to be able to sustain pressure and force the offence to commit an extra player to block. There are very seldom extra players being committed against the Patriots, and it shows in the post season. No pressure, no sacks, no wins.

In 2007 playoffs the team had 5 sacks, in 2009 the team had 0 post season sacks and in 2010 the also had 0 post season sacks. The regular season is a play in pound, the playoffs are where the rubber hits the road and the Patriots have had a serious shortage of rubber the last two playoffs.

 

[Sicilian]

in football you can't teach sack

I've never coached football, but I will stake my LIFE on this sentence being 100% false at worst, and completely ignorant of the flow of the game at best. Sacking the quarterback takes a combination of physical talent (which can't be taught but can be coached up over the years), reading blocks (which is gained through experience), and SCHEME, which includes both the player's understanding of his role in the scheme (which NEEDS to be taught) and how the other 10 players on defense understand and execute their role. If it could be narrowed down to one stud OLB who just simply "gets it" then those players would be paid $60million per year because they'd be the only ones on defense that matter.

 

[Oswlek]

and SCHEME, which includes both the player's understanding of his role in the scheme (which NEEDS to be taught) and how the other 10 players on defense understand and execute their role.

And for the coaches to figure out how to utilize the players.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

You are trying to compare apples and oranges, and arguing that because they are both round and grow on trees that they are the same thing. If you look at 2001, 2003 and 2004 there is one major element missing, a dominent OLB! Willie McGinnest was player that had to be considered whenever the QB went back to pass. In 2001 McGinnest had 6 sacks, but he had 2 in three playoff games, the team had 7 total. In 2003 Willie had 5.5 sacks, three in the post season the team had 12 total and 2004 he had 9.5 sacks, but none in the post season, the team had 6 total in the post season.

In basketball you can't teach height, in football you can't teach sack, you either can or you can't. Spreading the sack total out amongst the team is a good idea in theory, but to make it successful you have to be able to sustain pressure and force the offence to commit an extra player to block. There are very seldom extra players being committed against the Patriots, and it shows in the post season. No pressure, no sacks, no wins.

In 2007 playoffs the team had 5 sacks, in 2009 the team had 0 post season sacks and in 2010 the also had 0 post season sacks. The regular season is a play in pound, the playoffs are where the rubber hits the road and the Patriots have had a serious shortage of rubber the last two playoffs.

Is someone paying you to be this stupid?

In 2009, Flacco threw like six times and.....you are talking sacks?

Why not just return to Demarcus Ware posting? That way you can just be a complete baffoon.

Go to chapter 5 of "Football for Losers". Read up on problems associated with giving offenses short fields. Go back and check the stat sheet of the playoff game.

Simply unbelievable. It's a fullscale outbreak of the "Spawn of the Dumb Girls".

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Is someone paying you to be this stupid?

My guess is it is being done gratis.

 

[Sicilian]

And for the coaches to figure out how to utilize the players.

Good point. Something I have confidence in BB to be able to do 9 times out of 10.

 

[E Belichick Unum]

Is someone paying you to be this stupid?

In 2009, Flacco threw like six times and.....you are talking sacks?

Why not just return to Demarcus Ware posting? That way you can just be a complete baffoon.

Go to chapter 5 of "Football for Losers". Read up on problems associated with giving offenses short fields. Go back and check the stat sheet of the playoff game.

Simply unbelievable. It's a fullscale outbreak of the "Spawn of the Dumb Girls".

Ah, so once again you prove to the world you know nothing about football, but everything about being a f'ing moron.

Since you seem to be an online bully I really must ask you how many times you made it to school with your lunch money, my guess is that you either learned to run away or lost a lot of weight.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Ah, so once again you prove to the world you know nothing about football, but everything about being a f'ing moron.

Since you seem to be an online bully I really must ask you how many times you made it to school with your lunch money, my guess is that you either learned to run away or lost a lot of weight.

Toughness has zero to do with it.

Utilizing an IQ that reaches into double digits is what it's all about.

It's not my fault some Eunich used to bully your milk money. This is a football site not an avenue to compensate for childhood trauma.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

My guess is it is being done gratis.

I guess the "pro bono" and "pro bonehead" concepts go intermingled.

 

[E Belichick Unum]

Toughness has zero to do with it.

Utilizing an IQ that reaches into double digits is what it's all about.

Both statements above were made by somebody who knows all too well what he is talking about.