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  1. DaBronxPats14

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    I know I know all about how BB doesn't spend money on FA/Trades pickin up big salary if he possibly can't get a bargain basement discount but how about Asomugha opposit McCourty? Now that's down right SCARY ROCKIN! Do you think it's possible, feasable and worth it knowing priority areas Pats need to address 1st? IMO LOCK HIM UP! Get a bonifide pass rusher or 2 with a decent receiver and we're BAAAAAACK! I mean Pats have abizzilian draft picks they can afford to deal plus hit draft hard. Oh yeah that's if we have a season in Sept.
    Thoughts?
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    What in the world makes you think he is available?
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    Thoughts?

    Add this thread to the eleventy trillion other threads about him. It's a pipe dream.
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    After seeing how much Routt got, my thought is that it's never going to happen.
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    Leigh Bodden says hi
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    Please take off the Jets Great Gazoo-like helmet and join us in the real world. Please.
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    The Raiders didn't pick up an option on his contract. He's actually been available for a while now.
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    I guess 14-2 is gone....:confused:
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    We have one of the best young CB's in in the game and an extraordinarily serviceable 2nd in Bodden. Why would we want to spend an arm and a leg on Asomugha. We have other areas of need to address.
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    I think that Belichick is unlikely to pay the necessary amount of money that it would take.
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    The other areas of need only factor in to the extent that they require $.

    At OLB or OL, for example, if the likely answers are going to come through the draft, that shouldn't preclude going after Asomugha.

    I agree corner is nowhere near our area of greatest need, but he'd greatly improve the base defense and (assuming we still kept Bodden) our other packages as well as our depth.
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    Because he is available and we're talking about al davis & oakland raiders.
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    Free agent, Al Davis has nothing to do with him anymore.
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    That was gone the moment the timer hit zero against the Jets. 14-2 means nothing, the chances of the Pats doing that next year are VERY low, maybe 12-4, hell 13-3 would kind of be a stretch but still doable. I'm not saying its not going to happen but for the people who think that just because it was 14-2 this year with a young team DOES NOT mean even an improved team will have a better record next year. Better record? Maybe Not. Playoff Wins? Yes.

    I think that was his point, if we could get him for a REASONABLE price then it MIGHT be worth a shot BUT again, Bodden i'm sure would get factored in somehow, salary cut or something.

    I find it funny how everyone except that poster had valid points on why the Patriots do not NEED Asomougha yet you chose only to respond to HIM. LOL
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    He said that we would be back, implying at some point we were gone. I was just saying that we were 14-2, whether or not we won in the playoffs we weren't "gone".
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    Is CB a #1 need? No.

    But when a player of that caliber becomes a FA, one HAS to at least think about it.
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    Idiotic.

    Is CB a need? Of course. Arrington and Butler aren't the best nickel and dime CBs in the league.

    Is CB a 10+ million dollar/year need? Fvck no.

    If you think the Patriots can convince Nnamdi to join the Pats for 10 million a season than sure he might be worth it, and also, you'd be an idiot. He just was paid 15.1 million a season, Revis just got an agreement for ~12 million a season, and Champ Bailey just got a ~11 million a season extension. Sure Nnamdi isn't a head-case and has his head on straight unlike a lot of NFL players, but this will probably be the last big contract he signs. I can't see him selling himself short to go to a "contender". Who knows?
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    Ya right because those resposes were good so I answered obvious, he's available, period! lol
    and YES that's exactly what I meant about possibly comin cheap WITH Bodden. Also I was thinkin it would kill 2 birds with one stone, getting him & keepin him away from Jets. Think for a min NA & DR as Jets corners. In this case a good Defense is a good Defense!
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    People on here always mention the $, we're not exactly strapped for cash at the moment. They could afford him if they really wanted to get him.
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    I'm sure the Patriots could afford him if they really wanted to, but we all know Nnamdi is going to the Jets. Plus, there's more pressing needs in the overall make up of the Patriots. Nnamdi would be a nice addition that said.
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    Yes I know ty I meant Him dealing with A Davis org. even though Raiders were alot better I think NA would rather go to a contender now and get his $. I'm just saying maybe BB can convince him that le$$ is more and that collecting T Shirts is what's all about plus he'll still get his money work in bonuses. When there's a WIN ther'sa way!
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    With no pass rush, stocking up on front line cornerbacks wouldn't be the worst idea. Leigh Bodden is a good player but nowhere near as good as Asomugha and is due $4 million in salary this season. $5.5 million cap hit. It's not likely to happen but the Patriots could make it works if they wanted it to. I agree that the Routt contract doesn't help.
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    Right. Or addressing that pass rush?
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    Right. Because they've done such a good job of that lately.
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    Apparently that means it can't happen, damn.
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    It means it has been years since they had a legitimate pass rush. There are limited options in free agency and a rookie is unlikely to make a significant difference in a BB defense. Asomugha is a free agent and better coverage from defensive backs is one way to help offset lack of a pass rush.
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    This. *Claps hands

    Wait? What.....? lol Sorry, I don't really understand this statement. What do you mean....gone?

    I don't see how anybody can think the Jets out of all teams are going to get him, can you not see how many people they have as Free Agents? If they do sign Nnamdi Asomougha, say goodbye to Cromartie, Holmes, Edwards, Smith, and they are not going to re-sign Taylor or Jenkins.

    You sir. Win.

    Again, saying Nnamdi is going to the Jets is almost as bad as taking Gholston 6th overall in the draft.
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    If Stanford Rout (or whatever his name is) got over 10 million a year, what do you think Nnamdi is gonna ask for? It's not worth putting that much Money into one player unless he is a QB, and a damn good QB at that.
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    The team didn't address the pass-rush issue because they didn't believe there were any players, either through the draft or free agency, that could've fit into the scheme and produced in the way that their contract/salary or draft position would have justified. It would be easy to address the pass rush if there were many options available to the team.

    Do you really think Belichick doesn't think a pass rush is important? Or do you think that Belichick doesn't see the pass rush as a problem? I'm betting he does think it is important and that it's lacking has been a crutch to the defense and the team. But there is not an easy way to generate a pass rush because the good 34 DEs and the good 34 OLBs are rare and thus expensive.

    Sure, Clay Matthews might've been a solution, but he also may not have fit in here. Who knows? Maybe, BB put too much stock into Crable. So yeah, in recent years the pass rush hasn't been addressed very much, but not addressing it is better than signing another head-case FA (Thomas) or drafting say a Gholston.

    But, I don't believe in fixing the pass rush by signing a cornerback to a contract worth 30+ million in guaranteed money. Seems backwards and indirect to me. Will the best CB in the league certainly give our poor pass rushers more time to get the QB? Sure. Will our pass rushers still be poor? Yeah. I think you fix the pass rush by drafting and developing pass rushers, not by signing cornerbacks to monster contracts. (e.g. Cunningham and hopefully future draft picks).

    And just because the Patriots have the cap space to sign Nnamdi doesn't mean the team should. Say the Patriots have $20 million dollars in cap-space for the 2011 season. Nnamdi will certainly command $10-15 million dollars of that space. So what kind of players will the team bring in to fill the (1) offensive guard positions (2) outside linebacker (3) offensive tackle? That's four very important positions with only $5-10 million dollars of cap space dedicated to them. And don't forget three of those players are protecting the team's most valuable asset, it's $20 million dollar/season star quarterback.

    Of course, Nnamdi is one of the best players at his position in football, and he is still in his prime. But according to the needs of this team, is he really worth 10+ million dollars a season? Is his play going to put the team over the top to get to the Super Bowl? I think not. Or will using that money elsewhere bring a greater benefit to the team? I think so.
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    You do know the Jets reportedly are releasing Woody, Jenkins, Gholston, and Taylor for a 20 mil savings?
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