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NH Ranked As Safest State

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    No doubt it's because of the influx of Democrats from Massachusetts. ;)
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    No Comment
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    I was going to say the lack of a welfare state. ;)
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    There are more gun owners per capita in NH than probably any other NE state, with the possible exception of Maine... who knows what they do up there?! Do they still have the Red October in dry dock, HB??

    Anywho, in NH people know the chances are pretty high that the owner of any given piece of property may be armed, locked, and loaded. Most people can do math in NH.


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    Massachusetts #22 is lower than New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine
    because Massachusetts has public transportation.

    http://www.ci.cambridge.ma.us/CPD/reports/1998/factors.html
    Criminals are often indigent and cannot afford cars or other expensive forms of transportation. Areas near public transportation, and particularly subways, witness a higher crime rate-particularly robbery and larceny-than more inaccessable areas

    Just look at the town or Randolph.

    When they started the bus from Mattapan to Randolph crime rate went
    though the roof !

    :agree:
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    Public Transportation Bad....
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    I'm with Fog. I say guns. For 10 bucks, you walk into city hall and get a background check, then BAM permit to carry. I love this state.

    Not sure it's the Dems from MA Patters, sorry :)
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    check out the demographics of new hampshire.
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    What do you want us to look at in that regard?
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    why don't we start with high school and college grads and then move on to persons below the poverty level.
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    New Hampshire certainly appears to have favorable demographics in that regard:

    http://www.myonlinemaps.com/new-hampshire.php
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    They don't need no stupid college and high school in NH: they shoot their meat, fish their fish, dig their clams, and grow their roughage (soluble fiber, for your post-modernists) out in the back yard.

    School is for sissies.

    :singing:

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    NH succeeds because it isn't a welfare state with enormous taxes. It's a live and let live state that rewards those who work hard, and are independent.
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    That's why I love it so. But change is in the air, however...

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    Although it would nice it was that simple, taxes probably aren't one of them. Tennessee, for instance, has comparable taxes, but has fairly high crime. I think low population density and proximity to a state like MA (good jobs, great educational institutions, excellent hospitals) play major roles.

    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004912.html
    http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/Advice/TheBestAndWorstStatesForTaxes.aspx?page=2
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    They need to put a quota on immigrants from Massachusetts to NH. The only way to keep taxes under control.


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    Less minorities and less illegals.

    The numbers don't lie.

    Lets not be so PC that we can't admit that. Just look at patters example of Tennessee.
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    That wouldnt be Maine then.....come on up.....we give everything away....except good jobs or a chance to have a business.;)
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    I'd agree on the low population density. It's common knowledge that packed in urban areas just have more crime and such. I think that plays much more of a role then proximity to MA.
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    So, are you saying that minorities have a genetic trait that makes them more likely to commit crime, or do you think it has something to do with poverty and the quality of education, and that skin color plays no role?
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    genetic trait, no. cultural trait, yes. (see jason whitlock, thomas sowell). just because you are poor or stupid doesn't make it okay to commit crime. ever. nor is it an excuse. violent crime isn't a grey area and shouldn't be explained away based on your status in society or your education level.
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    Nothing is ever that simple, but it does explain alot. Tennessee is +1.3% over NH in their "all state and local taxes" column. That's a difference of 18%. Now, if you want to consider it a little further, let's look at what they used to compute their figure. Cig taxes are somewhat inconsiquestial since fewer people smoke than don't. Besides that, let's look at Tennessee's 7% sales tax. Ouch. NH doesn't have any. When I go buy my HDTTV this week, I'll be forking over $150 to the lovely, welfare giving, grossly managed, Amnesty loving MAss government. Why? Cuz the 5.95% they take from my pay, aside from the fees, isn't enough. they need to gouge my arse for another 5% on everything I buy, and eat. Add all that money up at the end of the year and you'll be surprised how much it comes too. Aside from the math though is the mindset. The welfare state simply promotes outside dependence. People in NH know it's on them, and not somebody else. Plus, they don't have Mass. judges letting criminals out of jail.
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    Bingo.


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    NH may be 21 states safer than us; but you never hear of Manchester or Nashua Dynamics making one of These. I can so see 'Rex' making his way back to Harry's house in the middle of blizzard with 4 cases of Shafer beer strapped to his back:D
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    Yes , poverty is the culprit.

    When you are poor , and uneducated , it is hard to make it , specially when you deal with banks/Stores or just a credit company that gives you a loan of 12k and you paid back 15k , and they tell you that you need to pay another 15k ,to square it.
    Original loan = 12k , the poor guy has to pay a total of: 30k $ and counting. This is a CRIME.
    The system is flawed , and the poor herd is not protected from the wolves.
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    It's hard but not impossible to overcome it. If used as an excuse, then yeah I agree. Poor people can get an education for free through high school and can in many cases get free education beyond that.....Though I do agree that some credit card companies are preditory. I just had a spat with the Home Depot card that I recently took out to get 10% of of something. I get a bill and put it in my pile that I pay at the end of every month. So I send it off like I do all my bills. I paid the card off in full. The following month I get a bill showing a $25 late fee. It seems that the due date is like 10 days from the billing date and not even one days grace period is allowed. So a guy can buy say a hundred dollar item, pay his minimum payments of $10 for 10 straight months like clockwork and if he's 1 day late every month he can rack up $250 worth of late fees alone. That is a crime. I did call them a raised helll so they waived the fee but that is complete BS. How many people do they take advantage of?
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    The cycle of their upbringing.
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    I would lay odds that if you split up NH, the higher crime sections would be along the boarder where the dems cross over to live. I guess one thing i have never understood about dems coming into NH is that they come to live there becuase it's better, and Mass is out of control (thier words) yet they continue to vote for the same type lunatics that did that to Mass.

    It looks like I will be moving back to NH in the next couple months so life is good!:cool:

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