Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by patchick, Feb 20, 2009.
Redirects to CBS! What gives?
Looks like they've "merged" :
"NFLDraftScout.com and CBSSports.com are teaming up to provide the most comprehensive year-round coverage of the NFL Draft. All of the information and expert analysis from NFLDraftScout.com will be available here in this enhanced user experience. Please direct all questions or comments to here."
CBS has had NFLDS stuff for a while, it looks like this might be the final frontier of the change now.
Seems ok here:
NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange
But in this case "merged" = "all their content is gone"!! Content many of us paid money for, I should mention.
OK, that's a backdoor...hope they don't lock it before adding all that content to the cbs site.
You can still reach those inside pages but the links from there to the home go to CBS - the inside pages won't do any good if they're not being updated. I guess we'll just have to wait and see but it doesn't look good.
That would REALLY stink....A pay site I actually paid for....I THOUGHT one of the better....not sure what is happening BUT??? It would stink if it was not updated and gone...
Works here too.
I sent an email to: firstname.lastname@example.org
I was going to join this year but...
Here is the response:
Those are being addressed by request, however, as I mentioned, I was unable to locate your account (or your payment) under your last name.
We can either provide a refund, or allow access to the original NFLDraftScout site at: NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange
Good luck to all,
I just emailed Cooney for a refund, fat chance of getting it. I could care less if he offers a lot of the same stuff free like he did last year. I could still get more info at his site but now I'm getting redirected to CBS. RIP-OFF.
Wrote the above before checking out the above links, it works so far. Hopefully they'll email subscribers next time before cutting us out???
Here is the letter that I wrote to Frank Cooney
Here is the response that I got:
I can still get in at the old site and will use that for now, we'll see where things go next Fall.
Not so reassuring, is it?
The unique thing about NFLDraftScout was the depth and sortability of information, including the ability to look back at past draft classes (and ahead to future) for reference. If Cooney reaps rich rewards for reproducing all of that at CBS, great, he deserves it. If instead he's just dumbing his approach down for a less hardcore audience, I'm bereft.
I love the site as much as the next guy. But...
What makes Rang and Cooney legitimate "scouts"?
Is it not a self-appointed title??? A marketing trick?
Rang, in particular, never served as a scout.
He went from being a draftnik with a site to this.
Sure, he claims to have been offered a scout job. So?!
Never worked as one yet is, strangely, viewed as one.
Frankly, though his analysis is usually very in-depth,
it is often unoriginal (aka: borrowed) or just a tad off.
He's had MANY memorable misses in talent evaluation.
Don't know enough about Cooney to speak about him.
But it seems they are cashing in.
The player analysis is their own and usually up before anyone else. SportsXchange has over 40 reporters working for them. So, your comments on them having "borrowed" information is actually backwards. SportsXchange produces USA TODAY Sports Weekly, Lindy's Annuals, Joe Montana's "Red Zone," Terry Bradshaw's Fantasy Football Preview, John Benson's Fantasy Baseball and Football Previews, Bill Walsh's Online Draft Analysis, and more.
Joel Buschbaum had NO experience as a scout and he is acknowledged as the best draft nik not affiliated with a team. Many GMs, including our own Bill Belichick, relied on Buschbaum's analysis.
Every single scout has had MANY memorable misses in talent evaluation. Not just Rang.
Cooney has been doing scouting stuff since 1966 and he pioneered the in-depth pre-draft analysis that has shown up in many Hearst newspapers for 30 years. Cooney worked with Bill Walsh on Bill's Draft Website and that website morphed into NFLDraftScout.com
I had posted this on the top 100+ thread. Looks like it was updated today.
NFL Draft - 2009 Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com Football
I'm sure that it's not a detailed as the DraftScout site.
Anyone who has a subscription should read the scouting reports for the top OTs.
Most detail I have ever seen from any website.
NFL Draft Scout----Powered By: The Sports Xchange
Interesting write-ups they've added.
So they're still updating! :eat3:
"Joel Buschbaum had NO experience as a scout and he is acknowledged as the best draft nik not affiliated with a team. Many GMs, including our own Bill Belichick, relied on Buschbaum's analysis."
Precisely. He [Buschbaum] was undeniably better at scouting than the actual scouts.
Now if the legendary Buschbaum didn't appoint himself and promote himself as a "Scout," but rather as a professional draftnik and analyst, than isn't it rather odd that these should stake claim to the title? For me, it is. If you disagree, fine.
The usefulness and value of professional draftniks is not in question, however.
Scouting is what they do. But is "Scout" who they really are? Because if it is,
what is to stop any draftnik out there from calling himself a professional Scout?
That's my point.
And as far as the gigantic size of their operation and all those who depend upon
their services, that's great. But that is also what I'm saying is "unoriginal [aka: borrowed]."
To clarify, I wasn't implying plagarism. What I am saying is that
with all these sources becoming more and more interconnected,
something is somehow lost in the independant evaluation. Every
source you turn to is suddenly saying the same thing.
Forgive my love for the small guy. But varying opinions is where the
value of professional draftniks lies. Case in point, Joel Buschbaum.
Separate names with a comma.