NFL Sports Channel dissifies Richard Seymour

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  1. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Evauluating the NFL’s Most Overrated and Underrated Players on Defense | NFL Sport Channel

    Don't shoot the messenger. This is just someone's opinion.
     
  2. This guy obviously doesn't realize that DE's in a 3-4 don't normally get sacks. Take a look around the NFL and you will see that most 3-4 DE's have a low sack total. In fact, it's extremely rare if a DE has more than 5 sacks. This guy is a complete moron! Seymour finally got healthy and posted 8 sacks as a 3-4 DE, which is really outstanding. In addition, there really wasn't any help from his LB's to apply pressure as well. So what does that tell you? Seymour is great when healthy. Also, I don't agree that Seymour is injured all the time. He gets nicked up every now and then, but it's not ridiculous like this guy thinks. Seymour suffered one bad injury that kept him out for 6 weeks. I have said this before and I will say it again, when the Pats get OLB's that can rush the passer, it will free up Seymour and he will really dominate. When your 3-4 DE is your only hope for a pass rush, it's kind of hard to be consistent.
     
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  3. Lampshade

    Lampshade Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Well there's someone who doesn't know what a DE's role in 3-4 defense is.

    Having just tried to read the rest of his list it's clear he doesn't know anything about anything.
     
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  4. Rob0729

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    Wow! So DEs in a two gap 3-4 system is supposed to get sacks?!? DEs in a two gap 3-4 system is supposed to help out only a little in the running game?!? Really?!?

    Well, I guess if you are completely ignorant of the differences between a 4-3 DE and a 3-4 DE like this author is, I guess you could make a valid point.

    I do think it is funny that he would be a better fit in a 4-3 when they are evaluating Seymour on the criteria of a 4-3 player, not a 3-4 one.
     
  5. the article is meant to inflame.......why else would nobody put their name on it?
     
  6. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    To be fair to this guy, he's clearly basing his football knowledge on Madden where, unless your D-Lineman picks up 10+ sacks, he never progresses in his abilities :rolleyes:
     
  7. xmarkd400x

    xmarkd400x 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Uh....

    Pats' DEs are supposed to take up two blockers so that the LBs can roam.

    Yet this writer criticizes them based on sack numbers?

    Why doesn't he start condemning Brady for his rushing numbers?
     
  8. Nordberg

    Nordberg Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    The guy obviously doesn't know that there is a difference between a 4-3 and a 3-4 in regards to gap responsibility.

    I am willing to bet the list is small with 10+ sack DE's that have played in a 3-4 in NFL history.

    Richard Seymour Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

    Seymour had his second best year as a pro last year.
     
  9. Rob0729

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    BTW, Howie Long made the HOF with an average of 6.5 sacks a season. Dan Hampton averaged 5.18 sacks a season in his HOF career (granted he played DT for part of it). So based on this article, neither deserved to be in.

    Ironically, sack machine DEs like Kevin Greene and Derrick Thomas struggle to get into the HOF. Greene can't get in and Thomas just got in after five years of eligibility.
     
  10. BadMoFo

    BadMoFo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Why's the guy saying he struggles in coverage and can't stick with a receiver? Does he realize what a defensive end is?
     
  11. Maroney TD

    Maroney TD On the Game Day Roster

    I just like how he points out that Seymour struggles to stay with receivers. Thats one of my biggest crticisms of Wilfork and Warren, for some reason they just can't stay with the WR. :bricks:
     
  12. xmarkd400x

    xmarkd400x 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Too bad the WRs don't have to BLOCK Wilfork/Warren.

    Do you think even a whole receiving corps would be able to block Wilfork without tripping him? That would be funny to watch =)
     
  13. The_Riddler

    The_Riddler 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Another guy that's ticked off over Richard's 9.5mill cap hit
     
  14. apple strudel

    apple strudel Banned

    What is dissifies?

    And LOL at Seymour not getting enough sacks? Is this for a video game?
     
  15. ScottieC

    ScottieC In the Starting Line-Up

    I do agree with the Bob Sanders and DeAngelo Hall comments he makes.
     
  16. BadMoFo

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    Of course you do, they're not Patriots.
     
  17. BadMoFo

    BadMoFo Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    I don't think he's the most over-rated, but I also don't think he's the best. I don't think he's gonna be around after next year, especially at $8-$10+ million a year, which I'm sure he'll be looking for.
     
  18. LiveShot

    LiveShot Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    I guess that Belichek doesn't know what he's doing again, just keeps on playing a vastly overrated player who's double teamed on almost every play.
    What a shmuck the Pats have for a coach.
     
  19. ScottieC

    ScottieC In the Starting Line-Up

    Oh, that's not fair BadMoFo. I've been dogging Hall forever, I watched him play down here in Atlanta and I just think he's a BAD football player.

    Sanders, he's a Colt and worthy of Homer Hate, but the guy is made of glass and I did agree with the writers conclusions about his game play.

    I'm a Homer, but that's not why I think those 2 are overrated.
     
  20. The guy is completely right.
     
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