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    NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Didnt see this anywhere before:

    Owners will implement rules changes but not to overtime


    Guess the hit wasn't so "clean" after all.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Should have been implemented after it happened to Carson Palmer a couple years back.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    I thought the rule was changed in 2006 and there was a 15 yard penalty for hitting QB's below or at the knees.

    Seems Vince and Sey were flagged numerous times.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Wilfork wasn't flagged for his hit on JP Losman 2 season ago. Which in fact started the Edwards era. Actually, I should be thanking him, lol.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Behold the power of Tom Brady, NFL Quarterback.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    That was a much larger man who had a much harder time to gain control when blocked. A safety is much more athleatic to avoid when he is blocked. I remember the reaction of Kimo von Oelhoffen after the play, reminded me of LT back in the day when he snapped Theisman leg.

    LT hit:

    YouTube - Joe Theisman vs. LT

    Palmer hit:

    YouTube - Carson Palmer Injury

    And finally did Wilfork have to put his elbow out as he fell???

    YouTube - Wilfork hits Losman, Pats vs Bills
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    I thought this was just under consideration. It was discussed on Mike and Mike this morning as if it's not a done deal yet. :confused:
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Clearly this is part of the league conspiracy to help the Patriots win.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Is Bill Polian not part of the rules committee anymore? :singing:
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    Personally, I don't like it. The league is too reactionary based on one or two isolated incidents (see the Roy Williams law). I think it will hurt defenses more than protect QBs.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"


    He was fined for it to.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    So where exactly did you see they instituted it? This is a article about stuff they will be voting on........:confused:

    EDIT: Probably should change your thread title way misleading
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    Wow, I've never seen the hit on Losman from that second angle. If you don't think that was intentional, you need your head felt.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    But no flag??? Things happen in the trenches very quickly.
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    Nope, no flag. It was as plain as day what he did and everyone could see it. I bet it was the fact that Losman was still holding the ball when Wilfork was on his way down. Of course, he was supposed to wrap up Losman not elbow drop him like he was pretending to be Greg "The Hammer" Valentine.
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    The best argument that it wasn't intentional--why would the Patriots want a better QB coming into the game? :confused:
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    Talk about egg on Wilfork's face. Edwards drove them down for a touchdown on that drive too.
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    This is what I was thinking and you try to stop 350lbs on a dime....I really doubt before the play he said to himself, "I wonder if I can take his knee out so he cannot continue to have a horrible game":D:D
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    I think Wilfork was happy with the end result of that game. Egg in his face that was a good one. Greg "The Hammer" Valentine was a figure four leg lock type of guy. I think you are looking for the Macho Man Randy Savage.
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    I didn't mean as a finishing move, I meant just trying to wear a guy down. From a standing position, "The Hammer" liked to drop a few elbows.
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    So the defensive player can get pushed into the QB, grab the QBs leg, but can't try to use leverage to bring down the QB. So the possible results are: the defensive player props the QB up until a teammate can come in for the kill shot....or.... the ref blows the whistle because the QB was "In the Grasp". (Unless this occurs in a Super Bowl)
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    Re: NFL institutes "Brady Rule"

    HAHAH i was gonna mention that. Either that or he didnt go to the meeting where this rule was decided.
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    If this gets ratified, they should just give up and award sacks based on the artistic merit of the pass rush.
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    I think you might be right on the merits, but the NFL is also entertainment. Brady, Peyton, Big Ben and, yes, even Romo, deliver fans and audiences.
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    Hahahaha, that what it's coming down to. Seriously though, it's almost like they're trying to change your instincts when it comes to rushing the passer. You mean to tell me that Pat Williams or some another behemoth of a defensive lineman is actually going to run up to the passer only to stop and think about how to hit him, gimme a break.
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    Even if, for the sake of argument, we all agree that Wilfork would intentionally injure QBs, the question still remains: why the hell would you want to take JP Losman *out* of the game? If it had happened to a competent NFL QB, I might be willing to acknowledge the likelihood of it.
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    Agreed. This will likely screw the Pats defenders with ticky-tac calls.

    Nothing will anger me more than when the defense makes a great play only for the refs to bail out an offense b/c of incidental contact to a QB's knees.

    Such officiating will always be subjective. The NFLCC will come down on refs who don't call the new rule enough while others will throw the flag if it looks like a rusher is going for the QB's knees.

    If this rule was reviewable, I might hate it less, but this is football and injuries are part of the game.
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    I'm not a mind reader so I have no earthly idea. Losman said something to piss him off? Belicheat gave him the order? The Bills had a chance to win? Wait a minute, isn't that the same game Takeo Spkies sacked Brady and we recovered the fumble for a touchdown? Well then, it was because we had a chance to win.
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    This is the part I don't understand about the argument against the rule. If Pollard had made a superior pass rush move or simply overpowered the blocker and Brady got injured as a result, then the league would be foolish to do anything. Pollard came on a blitz and went low on the blocker picking him up. He didn't make a "great play"...he made a stupid play and was fortunate to end up in an area where he could attack the QB.

    If you can't stay off the ground when you are rushing the passer, then the rules should force you to get off your damn arse before you continue the pass rush. Otherwise you start to build a cottage industry of inferior players who happen to be able to dive under blocks and launch themselves like a missile at the QB. If you don't like the "Brady Rule", then how about a rule that if you are rushing the passer and end up on the ground, a blocker is free to molest you in any way they see fit. I actually think that rule would end up stopping the knee attacks more effectively. Somehow I don't think that will find its way into the rulebook...unless they bring back the XFL.
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    Wilfork wasn't flagged because the Bills guard blocked Wilfork in Losman's direction.
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