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    NFL Owners and Commissioner Goodell Secretly Meet
    By: Derek Havens

    Several reports, including ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, stated that select high profile team owners and NFL commissioner Robert Goodell met secretly in Chicago to discuss the lockout strategy. ...

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    Big secret.
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    Yeah, really. More posturing from both sides, with even more to come. This is absolutely 100% ridiculous. Hopefully, maybe they went over some sort of 'plan' today, as to what they're going to try to do to get back to playing football before it's too late, however I wouldn't bet on it.
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    At least they are doing something besides waiting for Courts to decide their fate... take control of the situation and resolve this mess.
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    NFL Owners and Commissioner Goodell Secretly Meet
    By: Derek Havens

    Several reports, including ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, stated that select high profile team owners and NFL commissioner Robert Goodell met secretly in Chicago to discuss the lockout strategy....

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    more like a legion of doom meeting... the owners know what is coming.. Dmoroon Smith will fight till the end and rodger fooldell is a puppet for jones and kraft... i was optimistic that this would get settled by now, but if we are sitting here one month from now with the same nonsense.., there going to miss at least half the season and by then... what is the point...
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    Couldn't agree more supafly.
    Hope they realize they haven't even begun to feel the wrath of fans. If this continues into August people are going to start to get really really pissed off.
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    And if we start to miss games, I wonder how much of that 9 billion dollar pie gets cut out (meaning how much of the nfl earnings is already guaranteed or expected based on fan turnout in stadiums ot how much effect can we the consumer have on that 9 billion).

    i think that's part of what the owners are trying to brace themselves against (taking the extra 1 billion or negotiated portion thereof) is the operating expenses and the potential reduction in earnings.

    While the players do have physical risk (and in some cases -- Ted johnson -- their post carerr life is a mess), their financial risk is minimal compared to what the owners have risked. As well as the litigation it seems to be more a game of chicken to see who blinks first. Why can't they meet without the lawyers?
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    Well the court date is really the last chance in the near future to get a deal done, so this kind of meeting shows that they want to get a deal done soon.
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    Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    According to both Schefter and Mortensen, DeMaurice Smith was in attendance at that not so secret meeting with the owners in the Chicago. Good to see that both sides are meeting without the press and without the courts forcing them. Could be a positive sign that a deal may be coming.

    The owners have been putting out messages that July 4th is the cut off date to get a deal done and still have a free agency and a proper preseason. I guess that may be what they are working towards get a deal done.

    It would be ironic because most of the month of July is typically the deadest period in the calendar year, but it now could be the most active of this offseason.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    That is first good news there's been in this labor situation.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    Many pundits felt the best window for compromise would be between now and when the 8th hands down it's decision expected to be late June. Right now the leverage is leaning slightly towards ownership. That decision will tilt that leverage strongly one way or the other. Owners can't afford to lose it. The association would be in big leverage trouble unless they do. At that juncture even if Doty awards them mega damages in the TV case, those don't force ownerships hand because they don't need that money in the immediate future and a reversal by the 8th or an eventual settlement would likely make that case and those damages disappear.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    J-e-t-s

    just end the strike :d
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    While i applaud your use of an anacronym, those letters arranged in that order have no place here...ever. :D
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    And there were players present, although that includes retiree Mawae and unemployed Vrabel but also Saturday who seems to have some rappore with the opposition - even had drinks with Goodell a while back...
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    Any news is good news at this point. They couldn't move farther apart, right?
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting


    This is great news and exactly what Mr Kraft said needed to happen back in February:

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    July 4th... how symbolic. As for Kraft, don't you feel lucky to have him involved with the Patriots.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    The players ought to be irate that this sort of smoke-filled room wheeling and dealing is going on. The players should fire Demaurice Smith. He has no place at the table with the owners while the players get stiffed, locked-out and made to look like pawns in court. The players chose the lawsuit route and should stick to their guns

    The owners should be made to bargain in good faith, open their books, and quit building mega-monuments to themselves like Cowboys Stadium and Patriot Place that make their investor bffs wealthy. The owners take on debt and then want the players to sacrifice pay or former players to sacrifice their health and retirement benefits so Jerry Jones can make his payment on the private elevator with the $100k painting in it that goes only to his luxury box. BS! The players shouldn't sacrifice because the owners put their families and stooges on the payrolls of the teams for no work and huge salaries.

    The players fight for a CBO because it's their labor and short careers and broken bodies for the rest of their lives on the line. The owners are fatcats who are the culprits here. The players did not strike, the owners locked them out. Demaurice Smith is sleazier than his predecessor.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    Smith is supposed to reach a deal with the league, as long as the deal is one that the players can agree with. That's a huge part of his job. Such a deal can't happen if the sides don't engage in some level of dialogue.

    I don't get your issue here.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    The wheeling and dealing is whats supposed to go on, you seem anti agreement, not sure what your end game is but it sounds like you want labor strife and no football.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    Yeah that's the ticket...no football....awesome. Sign me up!

    Bargain in good faith? The players haven't bargained in good faith at all. No counter proposal to either proposal put forth by the owners, negotiating for the sake of the appearance of it, knowing the whole time they were heading to the courts.... sounds like the Players negotiated in good faith.

    And as far as the owners incurring debt for new stadiums. Do you not realize that maybe, just maybe they need to come up with new or better revenue streams to offset the rising costs of the benefits given to the players? In addition do you think the public should incur that debt or should the owners? I think it is ridiculous that players making anywhere from $250,000 up to 17 million a year, after getting a free education, receive education benefits, where is the logic in that? They are fed breakfast and lunch everyday they are required to work. Do you get that at your job? Crying for the players is ignorant. I'm not saying the owners should receive any sympathy either, all I'm saying is the players have it pretty damn good.

    They don't have to play football they chose to and they know the risks.

    The owners have to ensure the longevity of the league, which includes long term health insurance for the the players when their career is done.

    You are completely way off base and fail to see that the owners employ many "stooges" and provide for many families. Its not all about the players as they would have you believe. ;)
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    Just my opinion, but I think equating the Cowboys Stadium to Patriot Place is a bit of a stretch.
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    Perhaps I'm too cynical, but the repeated characterization of these meeting as being "secret" seems to be a bit of an overkill by the media; maybe that word was chosen because they have had so little to write about the last three months. If the owners really wanted to have a meeting that nobody but themselves would know about, they would have taken far greater measures to keep this meeting private. That, or simply have a video conference call; the technology is readily available and far less expensive than leasing private jets.

    Unpublicized? Yes.

    Secret? I don't think so.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    So they are having a "secret" and sports reporters know about it. Next time they should have a double secret meeting.

    All joking aside, there is no sense having a secret meeting and letting it leak out. Then one side or the other may feel they have to posture because it's no longer "secret". Take the PR aspect out of it and something can get done.
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    How stupid would you feel if I told you the court mediator ordered the meeting...LOL
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    Re: Schefter and Mort: De Smith at owners "secret" meeting

    I'm about as supportive of the players as you can get and even I think you're crazy. Litigation isn't the end, it's the means. The end is the deal. If you can get the same end by other means, you don't need the litigation.
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    The NFL just secretly announced that there will be a secret season played at secret locations. The Super bowl will be renamed The Secret Bowl. Shhhhh...
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