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  1. Armen Da Pats Fan

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    I'm looking here at guys we should keep plus open spots, notated as TBD...

    Starters have an asterisk after thier names...

    Love to hear some feedback...

    Offense (25)
    QB (3): Brady*, Cassel, TBD
    RB (4): Dillon*, Faulk*, Pass, TBD
    OL (9): Ashworth, Gorin, Hochstein*, Kazcur, Koppen*, Light*, Mankins*, Neal*, Tucker or TBD
    WR (6): Branch*, Brown, Davis, Dwight, Givens*, Johnson
    TE (3): Fauria, Graham, Watson*

    Defense (25)
    OL (7): Green, Hill, Klecko, Seymour*, Warren*, Wilfork*, TBD
    LB (9): Banta-Cain, Beisel, Bruschi*, Colvin*, Davis, Izzo, McGinest*, Vrabel*
    DB: (9): Gay, Harrison*, Hawkins, Hobbs*, Poteat, Samuel*, Sanders, G. Scott, Wilson*

    Special Teams (3):
    P (1): Miller*
    K (1): Vinatieri*
    LS (1): Paxton*

    Practice Squad:
    Claridge (LB), Alexander (LB), Childress (WR), Sam (WR), Ventrone (S), TBD
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    I agree, we should definately keep Brady.
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    I think I'm all set with a WR that runs towards tacklers...
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    I think Givens will want big $ and leave.
    Klecko needs to go.
    Pass I'm not sure of yet but I'd be ok w/him returning.
    I don't think ashworth will be back either due to a better offer elsewhere.

    Other than that it looks pretty good.
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    I would not be surprised to see Cassel go if we can score a decent FA and a decent draft pick QB.

    Rumor has it that Cassel never moved up to #2 because BB is not thrilled with his work ethic or his performance in studying the offense. He is not grasping it.

    Now, you would say, where did you hear this Drewwho??? Sorry, if I told you I would have to kill you...

    It is from a reliable source, but it could just be rumor with no substance...just repeating what I heard. Anyone else hear this????
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    I'd be amazed if Harrison made it back next year. Has he even had his surgery yet? Maybe PUP and he gets back by mid season or so.
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    Yeah, he's had surgery; it was "announced" (rather quietly, of course) a few weeks ago.
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    I think he may end up on the PUP, as well, but I expect him to be here...

    Rodney has too much heart to go out on an injury...he'll battle back...

    On another note, I love what I have seen from James Sanders and am anxious to see a healthy Guss Scott go for us next year...

    ADPF
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    I vote for keeping Brady, too.
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    OT: We need (athletic) tackles that can move, to free up our TEs on passing plays.
    SS: If Harrison makes it back from that injury, (back: as a starter) it would be one of the most amazing come backs in the history of the game. I'm not saying it isn't going to happen, I'm just saying, "How about plan-B?". I can't think of one player at that age with that injury who has returned. I called my Dad during that Steeler's game and said, "That's the end of a hall of fame carreer.". But then I remembered that not even Ronnie Lott is in the hall of fame.
    WR: I think we tried to sign Givens; no dice. I seem to remember some quote from his agent in the past comparing him to Ward? It's a shame too, we really need him in our offiense.
    QB: We'll bring in a QB and draft one as well; Flutie's going to retire, but Cassell willl have more than enough competition on his hands. BTW: I'd be shoked if the Titans didn't end up with Leinart.
    CB: Ahem: Ty Law
    ILB: ..I just don't get the lack of drafting attention here?
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    I remember that Given's quote about his agent comparing him to Ward. What a joke....

    And it is a total travesty for Ronnie Lott not to be a HOF'er
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    Armen,
    You asked for comments.

    OFFENSE
    1) You need to do a lot of signing of free agents: Ashworth, Neal, Brown, Davis, Dwight, Givens, Fauria
    2) I'm fine, except I think that we'll pick up a top receiver or receiver prospect as part of the mix.
    3) The #9 OL is Mruc or Yates

    DEFENSE
    4) I'd keep Wright instead of Klecko
    5) You list only nine LB's. I'd add Chad Brown, much better than TBC as a backup, role-playing OLB. TBC could be beaten out by Claridge.
    6) Harrison will be on PUP or retired. There is no way he will be the starter for Game One.
    7) I'd add a TBD at corner, for some unnemaed top shutdown corner.


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    QUOTE - I would not be surprised to see Cassel go if we can score a decent FA and a decent draft pick QB.

    Rumor has it that Cassel never moved up to #2 because BB is not thrilled with his work ethic or his performance in studying the offense. He is not grasping it.

    Now, you would say, where did you hear this Drewwho??? Sorry, if I told you I would have to kill you...Quote
    Exactly.
    QUOTE - it is from a reliable source, but it could just be rumor with no substance...just repeating what I heard. Anyone else hear this????QUOTE
    No.
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    ADPF -
    I don't believe that PK Sam is eligible for the Practice Squad next year. And I know for a fact that Alexander is not eligible.

    Also, how does this support your title?

    Players who may or may not be back next year:
    Don Davis, Matt Chatham, TBC, Ashworth, Hawkins, C. Scott, D. Starks, T. Poole, T. Brown, A. Davis, T. Dwight, C. Brown, S. Neal, D. Givens, A.Vinatieri

    One can only hope that Neal, Givens, Vinatieria and possilby Ashworth are re-signed.
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    Your 2006 Three-time defending World Champion New England Patriots

    1. QB Tom Brady
    2. QB Damon Huard - 2005 Team, Kansas City Chiefs
    3. QB Matt Cassell
    4. RB Corey Dillon
    5. RB Kevin Faulk
    6. RB Patrick Pass
    7. RB Jonathan Wells - 2005 Team, Houston Texans
    8. RB Joseph Addai - 2005 Team, Louisiana State
    9. TE Daniel Graham
    10. TE Benjamin Watson
    11. TE Clark Harris - 2005 Team, Rutgers
    12. WR Deion Branch
    13. WR David Givens
    14. WR Troy Brown
    15. WR Bethel Johnson
    16. WR Andre Davis
    17. WR Mike Hass - 2005 Team, Oregon State
    18. OL Dan Koppen
    19. OL Matt Light
    20. OL Nick Kaczur
    21. OL Logan Mankins
    22. OL Ross Hochstein
    23. OL Wesley Britt
    24. OL Steve Neal
    25. OL Mark LeVoir - 2005 Team, Notre Dame
    26. OL Lonie Paxton
    27. K Adam Vinatieri
    28. P Josh Miller
    29. DL Richard Seymour
    30. DL Vince Wilfork
    31. DL Jarvis Green
    32. DL Ty Warren
    33. DL Marquise Hill
    34. DL Mike Wright
    35. LB Willie McGinest
    36. LB Mike Vrabel
    37. LB Rosevelt Colvin
    38. LB Tedy Bruschi
    39. LB Ryan Claridge
    40. LB Monte Beisel
    41. LB Tully Banta Cain
    42. LB Tim Robbins - 2005 Team, Iowa State
    43. LB Andra Davis - 2005 Team, Cleveland Browns
    44. CB Asante Samuel
    45. CB Randall Gay
    46. CB Duane Starks
    47. CB Ellis Hobbs
    48. CB Jerry Azumah - 2005 Team, Chicago Bears
    49. S Eugene Wilson
    50. S Artrell Hawkins
    51. S James Sanders
    52. S Guss Scott
    53. S Lance Shulters - 2005 Team, Miami Dolphins
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    Five year deal with the Browns - done deal as they say.
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    yes, but I like the way he thinks...
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    Did I say Andra Davis? Because I meant Eric Alexander.
    That's too bad. I don't see any other UFAs that would help us much at LB. It could possibly open up a spot for Evans, Mruczkowski, or another draftee.
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    Doesnt really matter because the Fins will win the East anyway
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    I belkieve that they will, too. The century is young yet and someday in the future of thie 21st century the Phins may well win the AFCE again.

    Anybody here alive the last time the Phins won a SB?
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    Ill just come back next year this time when the Fins are AFCE champs and laugh at every single one of you guys. GOSH DANG I HATE THE PATS! you guys are almost as bad as the Bills and Jets
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    What happened to the prime picks


    I like the FAs. They are all good selections, although Aundra is in RAC long term plans. I don't think we'd get him even by trade.

    There is only one critique that I'd make. What have you done with all the Patriots first day draft picks? Did you trade themn for 2007 picks? Not a single one of your draftees would be picked before the mid fourth round, IMHO, with the possible exception of Addai, and that's where I'd choose him in an ordinary RB year, which this is not; it's very poor so he could go higher.

    I don't think that BB/SP will not use any high picks but I'm open to your thinking. Please explain.
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    You had some interesting draft picks on your roster. You didn't indicate which round they will be drafted in, but after looking at the list, I guess you have us trading our 1st, because you didn't have anybody worthy of a 1st on your list.

    I like Addia at RB. He has some speed, vision and doesn't leave the rock on the turf that much. Blocking needs improvement as well as receiving.

    Clark Harris at TE, I really like that choice. I think he's a junior. But he can also Long Snap.(will we still need Paxson?) He has size, decent speed and good hands. His blocking is OK, maybe needs some technique improvement. This guy would be a great choice if he declares. (PS: The Rutgers FB, I forgot his name, is also a great fit the for Pats. He blocks and catches really well.)

    Hass at WR. Not sure if he has the speed to separate at the pro level, but he had a great college career. He is definately one of those self made millionaires types that BB loves.

    Robbins is another good solid choice. He'll need a red shirt year like Claridge had, but he could be special in our defense. I wish he were an inch or two taller, 20 lbs. heavier and a little bit more instictive.

    LeVoir I'm not quite as high on as you. I was looking more at Justice from West Virginia or Whitworth from LSU. They are long and mobile, but they lack the pop at the snap of the ball that Levoir has.

    As a free agent, you listed Shulters. I wouldn't touch that guy with a ten foot poll. He's clearly fading.

    Overall not a bad roster.
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    In a shocking development, the Patriots draft a WR first, taking Hass in the first or early second after trading back. I like Hass' size and talent, and the system he's been in has produced some very good WRs, including the two Bengals WRs.
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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I haven't attempted a mock yet. I like Whitworth a lot. I wanted him last year before he decided to stay in school. As mentioned above, I think Hass is a late-first/early-second value. The other guys I just imagined would be available with some mid-round picks at spots of need.

    I've got Shulters as a depth DB. In all probability, he'll probably go somewhere where he has a better chance to start. But if he wants to play for a winner before retiring, he'd be good to have as a #7-9 DB.

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