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    The NewsCorp owned tabloids having been doing this kind of stuff to celebrities, sportsmen, etc for a long time in the UK.

    This story is buried on foxnews.com.
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    But....but but.....aren't they connected with FoxNews??

    Strange, usually they like publicity.
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    Who went rummaging through Sarah Palins garbage bags
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    A raccoon or bear?
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    MSNBC hired them.
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    Was it illegal? Did it hamper a police investigation?

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    fwiw, I don't think this reflects much on Newscorp or at all on Fox News. This is part of what gets overlooked when people try to blame CEOs for corporations' criminal acts. Somebody should be held accountable here, but it's not Murdoch (well, most likely not). It's more along the lines of the (relatively) "little guy" -- an editor or whoever thought this was a good idea at the paper in question.
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    I disagree with you on Murdoch as he is a piece of garbage. He happily gave up his Australian citizenship to become an American citizen to avoid Australian tax laws*

    His son, Lachlan, has been running the Australian arm of NewsCorp since he was 22 and also runs a cable provider in Australia.

    Murdoch is the epitomy of money, money and more money no matter what.

    *Prior to 2002 if you were an Australian citizen and obtained citizenship from another Country you were no longer an Aussie citizen.
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    That's probably true to some extent - but it's not the way it works in real life.

    If it worked that way hospitals couldn't get sued when a surgeon is negligent and a patient dies on the operating table or a bar owner couldn't be sued when a bartender serves a person too much alcohol and that person gets in a car and kills someone.

    We expect the "higher ups" to be aware of what goes on beneath them. They are, ultimately, responsible for their underlings actions. If they don't know what's going on - they probably should.
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    ? Did I say Murdoch's a good guy? I just don't think he is involved in that newspaper's operations, let alone had anything to do with this incident.
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    just for perspective, Newscorp's tendrils extend to the following:

    Boston Herald
    Cape Cod Times
    New Bedford Standard-Times
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    Fair point. As you can see I'm not exactly "fair and balanced" when it comes to that dbag!

    BTW: Does Murdoch live in the USA or the UK?
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    No, that's the difference b/t criminal and civil actions.

    If somebody wanted to sue Newscorp over this or some other issue, that of course would be fine and makes sense (assuming the nation's laws and corporate structure, etc. permitted it).

    Corporations absolutely need be able to be held accountable, and in this country, anyway, are probably too easily shielded from liabilities through legal structuring.

    That's very different from a criminal action, however.


    Tha's only true to an extent. Murdoch can't and shouldn't be aware of the actions of a reporter at a tabloid his company owns.

    Should be be held responsible? As CEO of the corporation, sure - meaning that he answers to the Board and shareholders for what goes on under his watch. As an individual, for either civil or criminal purposes, only if he knew something was being done that was illegal or was so significant that he clearly should have known about (imo, anyway -- not sure what UK or Australia law says).
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    Hacking into a twitter account doesn't fall under the UK defamation laws.

    NewsCorp won't be punished but I'm sure Rupert will throw some people under the bus to keep face.
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    I'm not sure where this came from, Gainzo. They didn't "hack into her twitter account," they hacked into her cell phone. They aren't accused of anything to do with defamation - they are accused of hampering with and interfering with a police investigation because they deleted messages from her voice mail without notifying the police or anyone else that they had access to her voice mail. This led the police and her family to think that she was still alive and retrieving her voice mails herself.

    I, for one, certainly do hope they are somehow punished for it.
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    My bad. I messed up my NewsCorp scandals.

    BTW: The hacked twitter account happened to Fox Business News. Fox News has notified the Secret Service.

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    They are also accused of hacking into the London subway bombing victims as well.

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