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    As long as right argues that guns are needed as weapons, they will continue to awaken the gun control crowd. Weapons are dangerous no matter whose hands they are in. When the gun owners were simply a group of sportspeople and collectors, they weren't as dangerous. The right-wing is the worst enemy of gun owners in that way.
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    Holy crap, you have no understanding of the 2A do you?
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    Yup, Obamas just standing on them. Can't wait to see King Obama make his proclamations today surrounded by little kids as props.. wonder if they'll be wearing red bandannas?
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    I have a good understanding. It was created to preserve the militias in the southern states so that they could reign in the slaves. I think as white men lose their special privileges to women, minorities, gays, and others, they cling to this last area of power (and let's face it this is primarily a conservative white male issue) with desperation. I don't think they want a return to slavery, but the fight for extreme gun rights is a hysterical emotional response to their loss of superior rights. (At any rate, personally I do not support guns as weapons.)

    To quote Patrick Henry:

    "If the country be invaded, a state may go to war, but cannot suppress [slave] insurrections [under this new Constitution]. If there should happen an insurrection of slaves, the country cannot be said to be invaded. They cannot, therefore, suppress it without the interposition of Congress . . . . Congress, and Congress only [under this new Constitution], can call forth the militia."
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    how did I spit on their memory?

    I'm not the one who plugged them for media gain....not once, but twice

    what about the other 6, weren't they martyrs, too, then?

    you're not too bright, are you?
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    Just as I thought, you really have no understanding of the 2A.
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    sounds like a speech.......a bad religious one at that
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    Patters knows EVERYTHING

    he is so enlightened, it makes me want to puke
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    Another left wing opinion piece... Cool

    Is it factually wrong that King Obamas kids school is protected by armed guards and Newtown wasn't?

    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
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    Well, Patrick Henry certainly had a good understanding of it. That's why I quoted him. As far as Thomas Jefferson's belief in revolution (in fact, for many years the communist bookstore in NYC was named after him) against a tyrannical government, frankly we don't have one and have not had one. When one arises, I have no doubt it will be with the backing of the NRA. Putting weapons into the hands of conservatives, who tend to favor reduced voting rights, reduced women's rights, and so on is devolution, not revolution.
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    Is it factually wrong that this thread was started with the express purpose of complaining about children being used as political fodder in the gun control debate?

    Is it factually wrong that The NRA managed to use children as political fodder in the gun control debate before Obama did?
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    It's weird how I feel myself being pushed to the right on this issue. I don't own a gun and have never considered myself "pro-gun," but the anti-gun hysteria and knee-jerk responses to Sandy Hook (including New York legislation) are an emotion-driven phenomenon that badly misses the point of what causes gun violence. Then again, I tend to find myself at odds with whatever is "popular," "exciting" and "fashionable."
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    Oh thats right Obama appointed Joe Biden to head the Gun Contol task force days after Newtown... due to all the Murders in Chicago.. When did that NRA ad come out again?

    Never let a crisis go to waste.
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    If gun control is the "newest religion," does that mean pro-gun absolutism is the oldest?
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    fashionable.......that's a good term for the latest anti-gun thing
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    It's not weird, I believe there are millions of people like you out there that are thinking if government can do this to the 2A what else can they do? I didn't own a gun until I was 50 years old, never thought about it one way or the other,I now own 2 and what is happening in New York right now is the reason I bought them. I wanted to get them before I couldn't anymore. I don't give a crap what the anti gunners say their ultimate goal is to ban guns.
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    No, it really isn't. But keep tilting at those windmills.
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    no....it does not
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    Like I said I don't care what anti-gunners say.



    NY just banned the sale of any gun that holds more than 7 rounds.


    How many guns currently being produced hold a magazine of 7 or less?
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    I have two big words for you.

    Catalyst

    as well as -

    Gabby Giffords shooting 1/8/2011
    Aurora movie theatre shooting 7/20/2012
    Sandy Hook School Shooting 9/12/2012


    Cumulative
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    Well that's good. I think you like eating babies, and I don't really care what you say to the contrary.

    To answer your question: plenty. But just imagine what sort of legislative outcomes we'd see instead if organizations like the NRA bothered to take a seat at the table instead of simply taking their collective balls (haha!) and going home. Ironic thing is the intransigence of the pro-gun crowd is only going to result in more draconian regulation than would have otherwise existed had they chosen to participate in the process.
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    New gun laws could potentially create a bigger black market for guns. And there is already a black market for guns/weapons.

    Unless ALL guns stop being made anywhere in the world, people will get their guns....just like if I wanted to, I could go out and get heroin, cocaine or oxy's right now.

    Black markets are run by criminals, so yeah, looks like we're gonna help keep them in bidness fa sho.

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    On the national stage there will be no new gun laws. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen.

    On the state level some liberal states will pass "tougher" gun laws which will only make it more difficult on law abiding citizens.

    We'll see an increase in crime too but the important thing is that gun legislation gets through. :rolleyes:

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