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    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/s...m&ex=1210478400&en=c65800f0ec50350f&ei=5087 \

    I find it interesting that Araton wants to punish Belichick for conduct that took place before 2006 - even though in his own article he makes clear that the NFL revised its policy that year - inferring that Belichick was not breaking any rules before then.

    Araton (who kindly provides his email hjaraton@nytimes.com) wants Goodell to send a message.

    A message of what? Suspending coaches for rules that didn't exist at the time?

    I wish someone could send a message to the media that they should be consistent over these things. Jimmy Johnson admitted to the same thing as Belichick did - under the same pre-2006 rules.

    I don't think I've heard one member of the media call for taking away the Cowboys Super Bowl Rings or putting an asterisk next to their season marks. And since they were all gung ho about finding teams that DID spy on practices and engage in filming, how come no outrage on their about how long this has been going on?

    http://www.thesportgallery.com/sport-stories/1967aug-nflspy.html
     
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    How is the Fans for truth campaign here coming along. We really need a generic email to send out to these morons.
     
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    I like how taping outside is now the football equivelent of cheating on your wife.
     
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    Michael Holley is calling him out Right Now!!
     
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    What a low-life scum piece of sh1t!!

    He is making it obious for everyone to see that he was HOPING Walsh had a tape. I guess people don't realize that doing that is un-American. In this country, we don't hope for the evidence to fit our wishes or the crime, we wait for the evidence and make up our minds.

    Are people that effing stupid that when the evidence does not support an allegation, we then ask for MORE punishment on the original transgression?

    WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!:cool:
     
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    I love Harvey's thought process. Since he was ignorant of what Belichick had been penalized for back in September, any new information discovered by him should result in new penalties to Belichick. It doesn't matter if Goodell already knew about it. It only matters what Harvey knew. How egocentric of him.

    Really, it just shows that it doesn't matter what Walsh said or had for evidence. The Mediots just wanted another opportunity to hem, haw and spout their drivel no matter how little sense it makes.
     
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    I love all these articles.

    Each one proves that this is really all about jealousy, hatred, revenge, and has nothing to do with logic and reason.
     
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    THE MORONS have come out to play my friends. Get used to it Patriot Nation, they are going to be here for awhile. :rolleyes:
     
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    I sent him an e-mail ripping him for his total lack of a coherent thought process.
     
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    Media outlets like the NYT and ESPN have really made a cottage industry out of Spygate haven't they? Even PFT gets more message board responses for Spygate stuff than any other story. All these media outlets seem to be desperate to keep the Spygate controversy alive because it is good for business.
     
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    First things first............"New York writer"

    Secondly what about the Broncos who broke salary cap rules, what about the Panthers who came up dirty for steroids after the Super Bowl. What about the Steelers of the 70's who were juiced up? You have to remember that Belichick and the Patriots are NFL's evil empire. They are great and don't look to be going away anytime soon so everyone outside of New England would love nothing more then to see them go away. I'd bet you anything if the team sucked and wasn't winning the AFC east where the NY Jets reside you'd never hear a peep from anyone.
     
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    This was my email to 'ol Harv;

    "Yo Harv...you're kidding about the 1 year suspension for Belichik, right?

    After all, he's already been punished for his transgressions and the tapes contain nothing new. He was honest and told Goodell that he's been video-taping since the day he started coaching.

    Are you saying you support Roger Goodell going back on his word and decide to ADD to the punishment based upon public opinion? Are you that stupid?

    Why don't you get honest and just admit you hate Billy Belichik and you REALLY, REALLY wanted there to be a Rams walk-through tape. If you're man enough to admit that, then you'll realize just how un-American that is. You see, in this country we don't wish for the evidence to fit the crime, we make up our minds once the evidence is presented to us.

    Since the evidence only supports what Goodell has known since last September, tell me why more punishment should be handed down? I'll be waiting for your explanation that shows your bias."
     
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    I figured I'd contribute something actually useful to the whole spygate crap
    I mean this isnt going to stop for a while and no one seems to be thinking about ignoring it so we might as well be well fed
     
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    Did you really misspell Belichick's name?
     
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    Had you spelled the coach's name correctly, it would have carried more weight
     
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    I think the problem is actually worse than you imagine. These media luminaries have so much invested in there being something "more" to Spygate and have spewed forth so much vitriolic rhetoric over the last eight months, especially since the Tomass article, that they CAN'T just let this die.

    The Araton piece is an obvious attempt to influence Specter and his staff, who no doubt read the New York Times everyday.

    This is where the Patriots have played this all wrong from day one, in my opinion (and I have said so out here since September). Instead of adopting an aggressive, crisis-control approach to the media, they left it to the good people of this Board to assemble the facts and try to get the media to pay attention to them.

    As a result, aside from the New England media, there is no one out there defending the Patriots, while charge after absurd charge goes unchallenged.

    The Patriots failed to realize that this is like a political campaign, where unchallenged lies become "real facts" simply because they are repeated time and time again without systematic refutation.

    Maybe Bob Kraft is just too much of a gentleman and assumed that reason would prevail. However, Reason never prevails when there is a media feeding frenzy.

    The Patriots needed to hire an aggressive, tough crisis management specialist the day this story broke, who would not let a single charge go unchallenged, either by sending out a "friendly" talking head like Jimmy Johnson or by planting a friendly story with someone else in the media. They should have approached this like a do-or-die political campaign, instead of sitting back and letting the attacks build beyond all rationality.

    In my opinion, the way the Patriots have handled this entire matter with the media is an example of how NOT to manage a crisis.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Patriots now lose the endgame of this mess, with a weak and fearful Roger Goodell caving in to Specter and the national media and imposing more "punishments" instead of saying that the whole affair is over--simply because it is the easier thing to do.
     
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