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    I saw that NEP's thread was closed due to posting too many threads in one day. But this topic should be open here on this board, so I decided to post it myself. Not that I support impeaching our president. But I think it's important to know just how angry Americans are becoming.

    "OSHKOSH - A controversial billboard along Highway 41 is catching people's attention. It calls for President Obama to be removed from office."

    'Impeach Obama' billboard along Highway 41
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    He will be impeached or he will have to resign, he's a god damn joke.
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    I'm not so sure he's significant. I think it's just another example of the efforts that the far right will go through to derail Obama's presidency. After all, they tried the birth certificate, the religion, the terrorist friends, and many other arguments. None of them have really caught on. Might as well try calling for his impeachment, I guess.

    In my view, what we're hearing from the far right are the awful shrieks of a dying monster, who will be replaced with the multicultural society and value system it fears. It's an ugly sound they make. I think they will either fight or die, but I don't think they're really angry enough to fight because most of their fears (such as Obama's a Muslim, gays are going to corrupt our kids, Spanish is going to be the national language, blacks and Latinos are destroying our communities, Obama is going to take away our guns, kids are going to be taught about perverse sex in schools) are irrational nonsense and at some level most of them know it.
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    Like I said...I'm not looking for Obama to be impeached, but for the life of me, I don't know what the hell you're talking about Patters. Are you living on a different planet? The anger lies in MAINSTREAM AMERICA...not the far right. How do you think Scott Brown got voted in? people like ME voted for him because mainstream Americans like me don't want this country moving left.

    You don't represent mainstream America Patters. Instead of debating you...why don't we just let the next 2-3 years unfold and we'll let the voting booths decide who speaks for mainstream America. Remember, mainstream (the majority) is all that matters in politics and culture. We don't let the minority dictate which direction this country will move, do we? And maybe, just maybe, that scares you!

    Talking nonsense is expecting gov't to provide people with a means of living. Non-sense is thinking we have a revenue problem and not a spending problem. Nonsense is letting our gov't tell us what kinds of cars we drive, how we heat our homes or who we can hire or not hire. Now THAT'S nonsense!

    So I suggest you prepare yourself for a long journey into OUR world.

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    Its really too bad that there's no blowjob charges to trump up.
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    Yes, PR, I understand that people like you don't want our country moving left, but I also don't think people like you are getting particularly radicalized. Chances are you pin at least a little of the blame on Republicans, will make your voice heard in elections not through violent protest, and understand that even if we go to the left it's just a matter of time before we go to the right. I understand that people are angry, but I also understanding that the only danger to that anger is if the radical right succeeds in fanning it. As Mao said, A single spark can start of prairie fire. That's what the billboard and other outrageous campaigns of the right are all about, trying to start that fire.

    I don't think people would be particularly against higher taxes on the very wealthy in order to bring down our deficit, cut middle class taxes, and provide jobs programs. (By the way, I can't find a poll on how the American public views increasing taxes on the wealthy in order to bring down our deficit. I guess corporate America doesn't want that sort of info out there.) We should of course also identify programs that don't serve a good purpose and cut them. Government is quite transparent. It's a wonder that one can't find a good list as to what exactly should be cut from government and how much it would save.
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    The guy is horrible as President. However he was voted in and you shouldn't impeach people for stupidity. He is doing what he said he would do. Perhaps people didn't pay enough attention.


    The midterm elections and the next presidential election is where this problem should be addressed.
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    Nobody's angry!
    Nobody gives a flying fornication.
    No one wants to impeach Obama- that's just some idiot who can't get over the fact that there's a negro in the White House. That will never happen because any sane person knows that he hasn't done anything immoral or illegal...sucking up to the wealthy is what American presidents have done since the Kennedy/Nixon debate and Obama is their man.

    Don't worry "Angry America"...you can vote him out of office in 2012 and blame him for the economic mess and the earthquake in Haiti and gays having more rights that weaken the "sanctity" of marriage. Then you can switch sides and blame the next president as the country goes down the toilet. ADD America on the march! What's on TV?
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    This post is dramatically different tone than your last one. What happened? You really didn't address many of my points, but that's fine.

    My position is that I don't want gov't getting any bigger or passing more LAWS to shape & mold our culture because they're not qualified to do that. They're getting to be a burden upon our society and that's not why we vote them to serve.

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    Good Post, this is exactly how I feel but you said much nicer and politely than I could, your post helps to explain what gave birth to The Tea Party's (frustration).
    Good Post PR..........
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    Then you sure don't want the republican party in power if 2000-2008, or 1988-1992 are any sort of barometer.
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    People like ME are still trying to figure out one damn thing that's moved left in this country, or for that matter, one damn proposal that's even slightly to the left of the center. The whole health care debate is a perfect example: You characterize an incredibly centrist, compromise solution -- a public option -- as Socialist, and of course you're going to believe the country is "moving left." But Obama didn't go to the wall on that one. He's at the point where he's ready to just sort of move into the antechamber of consumer protection advocacy, and still the morons howl and scream about how "left" he's moving.

    He's NOT a "tax tax tax" guy... and he's got a situation where not spending is the height of irresponsibility... and he's a "leftist" for doing exactly as his hard right predecessor did, i.e., run deficits as a substitute for budgeting. Then he tries to embrace a Republican motion to reinstate PAYGO, and now I hear that's a communist plot too.

    Maybe, just maybe, that scares you, PR. Maybe if it doesn't, it should.

    You might notice that you're reading over and over again the same tired canards peddled around within one shrinking demographic. There are few if any non-Whites here to debate you. Those who do are not the "voice of the people" if they're not vocally shilling for corporate interests. The young are underrepresented here. The poor are unrepresented here.

    But your initial pronouncement sounds like a good bet -- let the next 2-3 years unfold. Mainstream America voted in Obama. A state that already pays for universal (in-state) healthcare voted in Scott Brown, right after another state (Nebraska) was given a perpetual favor in the senate bill so the Dems could get to 60. If I'm in Mass, and I have to pick between the cruddy Dem candidate, and the unexplained prospect of a national program that seems duplicative of my state program, and "brand X" -- yeah I'm pretty open to a Scott Brown, right?

    Really? I guess the mainstream of economists are all talking nonsense. I guess the reactions to the collapse of 08 around the world has all been nonsense. I guess the bank failures in the dozens, instead of the thousands, is nonsense. I guess all the numbers mean nothing, and the destruction of trillions of dollars of wealth, in large part in the nation's 401(k)s, was nonsense. I guess since no stimulus measures, worldwide, had any effect whatsoever, only nonsense has even been contemplated as a response to the collapse, and I guess that the fragile jobs and consumer spending turnaround is nonsense too.

    As to who we can and can't hire, I guess civil rights is nonsense, and you should be free to hire white only, or Christian only (though as a result of the marginalization of church/state concerns, there are carve-outs for religious bigotry -- so plenty of places do this.) That's a good idea. Government sure did overstep its bounds when it desegregated them schools, I tellya!

    I think you'll be surprised at how many of "Us" aren't YOU or some ranting tea-bagger that gives you the warm fuzzies when he spouts one or another slogan.

    No due disrespect, my friend, but what if "US" and the "REAL WORLD" turns out to be "THE MAINSTREAM not counting anybody we just deride into irrelevance based on their progressive politics, their race, their occupation, their creed, their gender, or their sexual orientation"?

    Ever think of that? You can be derided for all these things quite easily here on Patsfans for all these reasons. Now consider how many people click on the Patsfans politics board, laugh, and move on.

    There is nowhere that 2 + 2 = 5, PR. There is nowhere that "supply side economics" works. There is nowhere that the Laffer Curve is considered solid economic theory -- outside of GOP stump speeches.

    People who were awake in autumn 2008 are still out there. Remember the explanations we got from the local rightists about that meltdown? I saw another reference to it just the other day in fact, right here... it's all the fault of liberals and minorities. The CRA! The CRA! (A Carter administration anti-redlining program.) Most CRA loans are still not defaulted, and many of the people the Right wants to blame for the meltdown own those homes by now, free and clear.

    But that's all they had. The CRA.

    Well, since nobody but an idiot or a desperate free marketeer believes the CRA singlehandledly unravelled the global economic system, the rest of us still remember that it did, in fact, unravel. We see that Wall Street is, in fact, in need of some restraint, to quote mssrs. Jagger and Richards. All the people not present on Patsfans.com in great numbers, or in the teeming dozens of actual tea party gatherings, are still out there, if not energetically pursuing politics. They haven't all turned back to some imagined "center" of obstructionism, just because you have.

    So yeah, we have to see whether anybody's learned this cycle. We'll see the extent of the Dems' losses (to not lose seats -- a push, in sports terms -- would be a miracle for any party holding the majorities the Dems hold.) We'll see if the "throw the bums out" tide will result in a GOP majority in either house (hint: harder to get than #41 out of 100.) Between now and November we'll see how the Republicans fare with a steady diet of being publicly exposed as obstuctionist. And beyond November, we'll see how people feel about an actual flesh-and-blood candidate versus the incumbent.

    I've been through Joe six-pack, Joe the Plumber, Soccer Moms, Hockey Moms, Security Moms, blah blah blah. You know, all those good ol' suburbanite labels that are supposed to represent the "real" America. Yet most Americans live in shouting distance of a major city. This is why Republicans have squeeked out exactly one popular vote victory in the last 5 elections, and that one by a whisker, with a sitting president in the midst of a war justified by the first attack on American soil since 1941.

    The country's moving forward, PR, a few clutches of teabagger obstructionists, their lobbyist funding sources, and their handpicked media outlets notwithstanding.

    Right now one party and one party only even tries to solve real-life problems, and that's the Dems. The Republicans are in an orgy of obstructionism trying to keep hold of their whack-job base, and the whack-job base is busy coming up with reasons that whatever they come up with is not obstructionist enough.

    So are people like Patters and me the only ones noticing that the filibuster is now -- and only now -- considered the basis for governing? That the only significant number is not the majority, but the 60+ majority? You think we're the only ones to notice that from before he took office, the right has been trying to defeat any measure accepted by our president--even if they originated with the GOP--starting with the inane "birth certificate" tactic?

    You really think "GET OBAMA!!!" is the mood of "the real America?"

    Welp, as we are all saying, we'll see in November, then we'll see in '12.

    My money's not on an extension of the idiocy foisted on this country this past year by the far right. Half the discontent against the Dems these days has been that once elected they didn't have the spine to steamroll the minority when it proved itself uninterested in governance.

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    This is getting more BS around here. I follow 4 threads/ day. My first 4 threads were posted before 12 am and the second 4 threads were posted after 12 am. It meant that the first 4 were for saturday and the second 4 were for Sunday.

    I follow the rules. What is the problem?
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    That is not what I saw when I looked at the times on the threads. all 7 were after 12am. Is the time on you computer the same as the time registered on this board?
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    This is what I see on my computer. I live in CA and my board setting reflects Pacific Time. I FOLLOWED the rule.



    $1 cigaret tax: Yesterday, 11:32 PM

    Impeach Obama board: Yesterday, 11:30 PM

    Obama sign into law public debt: Yesterday, 11:27 PM

    Early sign of double dip: Yesterday, 11:23 PM



    For all Bush haters: Today, 12:47 AM

    Biden and Obama are hypocrites: Today, 12:27 AM

    Queen Obama: Today, 12:50 AM

    CNN news anchor: Today, 12:52 AM
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    A-fukcing-men! Say goodbye to extremism on both sides. Welcome back to the mainstream people. Excellent post PR.
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    Nobody's angry? Where are you loving dude? I'm absolutely opposed to the impeach BS, but the majority of people in this country are ******* pissed. Massachusetts elected a republican to Ted Kennedy's seat! People are fed up with establishment, and anyone that the voting public views as being part of that, will be out of work when their turn comes around.
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    BTW, this comes with the territory.

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