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    Felger talked to Kessler. Kessler said, whether the grievances are combined or taken separately, that the earliest both grievances will be ruled on is Thursday Sept 14. Kessler also said that even if Deion loses both rulings, Deion and Chayut will then sue the Pats to recoup the difference in salary between his current one and the one the Jets were willing to offer. In short, IMO it appears Chayut is losing his mind. Very amusing.:D
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    They will looked like they lost there minds!!!!!!!
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    1) Uhh, I could be mistaken, but I don't believe that Deion has a current salary with the Patriots. He's on strike.

    2) If he sues an NFL team that holds a valid contract, he's probably kissing his career good bye. There are only 32 potential employers, none of whom would be happy with a contracted player suing their team.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    I just thought of this.

    If they sue, Branch will be essentially suing for the difference between 2 seperate contracts.

    One contract will be a contract he never signed, and the other will be a contract he didn't honor!

    Hilarious!
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    I'm surprised he's not suing the Pats for the monies he will lose from future clients who won't touch him with a ten foot pole after this fiasco. Sounds like the Branch camp already knows this grievance is a fool's errand.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    This is getting ridiculous, DB has sunk very low in my eyes, needs to get rid of this Chayut guy...who is fighting for his status as an agent in the NFL... anyone who is looking for an agent will shy away from this guy.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    Nah. One thing we've learned from the ongoing saga of Terrell Owens is that no matter how big of a jerk you are, there's always some team willing to come up and throw money at talent.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    Are they both trying to get themselves blacklisted from the NFL? What a marriage of idiocy. If I am a Chayut client I am calling Chayut and telling him he is fired and announcing a new agent Friday morning!
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    No, a mind is a precious thing to lose.
    Even this guy's.

    It may give rise to some kind of claim for recompense, though, under the Americans With Disabilities Act.
    "My agent was out of his mind!"
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    Branch is looking worse and worse.. does anyone think that these threats of law suits are going to bring suitors to HIM?? He won't play this year..will lose a ton of money..even worse than expected. I thought I smelled a lawsuit awhile ago and mentioned that..am MORE upset that I was correct in him taking this legal route..it'll bury him...before one knows it, there will be a hold on all of it and Deion will be playing for no one. Does one think that taking a case to court will happen quickly? He will lose big time..and Chuyut will look even more stupid.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    Don't take our hope away from us with reality. At least let us enjoy it temporarily.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    An additional piece of info is that the arbiter who will be hearing the grievances is the law professor from UPenn who was going to rule in favor of Terrell Owens in the San Fran/Balt/Philly fiasco before the principals worked it out. not a good sign, but the circumstances aren't comparable.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    he's not even remotely close in terms of talent to TO.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    Bravo sarge! :rocker:
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    we should all make an offer to deion for a billion dollars to start playing for our nfl fantasy team and then ask him to sue the pats for the difference, we can all split if he ends up winning :)
    this is the funniest, sueing the pats !:)
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    It was my understanding that under the CBA, you don't sue over contract disputes. You go to binding arbitration. If you could sue over breaches of player contracts, it would be the Patriots suing Branch right now.

    (By the way everybody, it's a breach, not breech. If you say Deion's "in breech," it means he's ass-side up. Oh wait, maybe that is what you mean....)
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    This is borderline insanity. Branch has made business personal here, and apparently (amazingly) so has his agent. This isn't even in the realm of reality anymore, much less rational thought.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    That's funny :D

    It's clear that the message to the Patriots is that they will be involved in neverending amounts of legal crap until they let DB go. It will be interesting to see whether they allow that technique to work....if I were them I wouldn't or they'd be setting themselves up for more of the same with future players.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    OK, I'm not a lawyer, but I understand that there's a Napoleonic Legal Code and an Anglo-American Legal Code. What is suggested above would be, to use the technical legal terminology, "Whacko," under either.

    So, I can only conclude that Deion is breaking new legal ground here. What should we call it? The "Branch-Deionian Code?"
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    What about the Patriots suing him?? WIF they go the way of a lawsuit that will tie him up and he won't be playing for anyobdy this year or next. Suing for money between contracts on a contract NOT signed?? That is clearly ridiculous...the more I see it, the more I think Branch is a lazy phony..He is done in my book..and if some DBack has a chance to take him out..all the better..I amd glad they are taking it to the courts though..it will tie him up so he never plays football again..you think these suits will get processed quickly?? A year or so..sure, the grievances will be done with quickly, but Chuyut and Branch suing?? DUMB!!!!
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    But there is a difference. TO's agent forgot to file his papers for free agency. HE WAS A FREE AGENT. BRANCH is not. I didn't hear one complaint about that 5 year deal during the 4 years that he was on this team. Why is it a problem now when it wasn't a problem in 2002,2003,2004 or 2005. :confused:
    I have never seen more warped thinking. Branch and his agent believe that the 5th year of that contract should not exist. The Pats should have let his sorry arse ROT at home, rather than tell him to do anything. If he loses, I hope they let him ROT.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    I'm not sure how much of that isn't just posturing.

    Remember the old saying,

    The lawyer with the facts on his side hammers on the facts.
    The lawyer with the law on his side hammers on the law.
    The lawyer with neither the facts or the law on his side hammers on the table.

    He's just trying to get the Patriots to trade him, and he has nothing else.
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    Re: New Deion info from Felger

    I guess i have a question....

    if in fact the CBA is a legal agreement and the hope is that it is, considering the entire NFL depends on it...what court will allow a law suit over it rights if binding abritration is agreed to by the parties...ie NFL and the Players union....

    Or will this be a personal loss law suit outside the paramiters of the CBA like a personal injury suit?

    Which, if allowed to go forward, would subject every employer in the nation too law suits for potential loss of income from other employers due an employee already being under contract to thier present employer.
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    From day 1 of this fiasco it's been the intent of Chayut to force the Pats to trade his client so that all of this mess will simply go away. This recent revelation is simply part of that process. I wish the Pats had turned a blind eye to Chayut from the get go but unfortunately they didn't and chose to play along with him. It'll be interesting to see if Chayut succeeds in finding a way to get Branch out of NE. If he does he'll certainly earn his commission and probably gain a bunch of new clients in the process.
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    This is getting so weird that I can't help but wonder if the NFL won't try to broker some kind of trade just to make it go away. The suing that sounds nuts and retarded but when you're in the courts, anything can happen and players having the precedent to sue to get out of a year (or more, I guess) of a contract they no longer like isn't something the NFL can want. Again, it sounds nutty and to any kind of well thinking person would get laughed out of court - but even though the liklihood is very small, the repercussions of a win for the player here must really make the NFL want this to go away.

    What a psycho this player has turned out to be and who would have guessed :(
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    There's no reason for the Pats to trade him until next offseason. Then the market will be larger and the chances of acquiring a good draft pick are increased. Now, just hang onto him and let him stew until he shows up with his tail between his legs. Maybe in the interim he'll fire his agent and sign on the dotted line.
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    Personally I think it's brilliant what the agent Chayut is doing for his client. He's forcing the Pats ( or the league to force the Pats) into trading his client before his contract runs out so that both can make more money when all is said and done.
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    I think the Patriots are probably laughing more than feeling forced into anything. And the league can't force them into anything either. All the league can do is, behind the scenes, try to find a team to give the Patriots what they want for the player.

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