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    Never-Wrong Pundit Picks Obama to Win in 2012 - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

    From: Elections expert who’s called every presidential race since ’84: Obama will win

     
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    The unemployment numbers of course make a very different prediction.
     
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    That was #2 under the GOP wins.
     
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    Let's see where things are a year from now. If the economy still sucks, the deficit still huge, and an electable ticket representing the GOP (a Romney/Rubio type ticket comes to mind as electable), then I can see the potential for this guy's streak to end. Still though, you have to believe that Obama will be reelected at this point. He should be the favorite to win.
     
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    No President since FDR has been reelected with unemployment > 8%.

    As a dem strategist said "It's the economy stupid".
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me either way, as we've likely entered an era of one-termers due to an inevitable collapse that is completely out of the hands of either side in Washington, both of whom are intent on continuing the corrupt system as it is. Zombies gonna zombie.

    But considering the laughable contingent of candidates the right has trotted out so far, and Obama's ease in disposing of them in head-to-head debate, my money would be on Barack.

    Of course, this would all be so much easier for Obama if he came out and admitted what we truly face -- a condition decades in the making.
     
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    Pant Suit Hillary is coming back, Obama is all done, the beautiful smile, the hope and changey, the yes we can, democrats fainting, Maureen Dowds Wet Dreams, all that bullsh!t is finally over, America will now have to tolerate 8 years of Pant Suits, screaming, shreiking and cackling.

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    The stupid GOP is running a gang of ass holes, they will get what they deserve, they need a Far Right Wing Ruthless Neo Con To Win.

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    I usually go by what that octopus that kept picking the world cup games correctly thinks....too bad he died. :eek:
     
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    Of course, no President has been in office during such a deep recession since....FDR.

    Maybe not the comparison you were looking for, chief.
     
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    Considering the dopes being hoisted up by the pubbies (Bachmann? for real?), I would expect this prediction right. It's tough at this point, as RW points out, but this is how I see it panning out now.
     
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    Ummmm, some of the categories slotted in Obama's favor are gifts.

    4 - Sure, there were major domestic-policy changes..... (Stimulus, Health Care). I suppose that it didn't matter to the "picker" that the majority of them are extremely unpopular to the American public. I can see where domestic policy changes could be a good thing for a president, but I believe the unpopularity of the one's Obama made certainly can't be considered an asset to him. I may not have given this to the GOP, but certainly would not have given it to Obama.

    5 - Okay, there hasn't been any armed uprisings :rolleyes: , but I would certainly call the tea party a form of social unrest. A good deal of rally's and protest through out the country. All the crap that in Wisconsin earlier this year too. Discount them all you want, but the tea party is symptomatic of a population that is at "unrest" (albeit peaceably at this point). Again, can't give this to Obama.

    6 & 7 - Wow, these are a real stretch....... Killing Bin Laden had just about zero effect on Obama's popularity. A 2-3 day bump. Hard to argue that he has all that many foreign-policy achievements beyond that. OTOH the handling of the wars (Afghanistan for sure) is a major foreign-policy failure (at least in the eyes of the people who elected him). At best, he's been a neutral foreign-policy president. Again, it's hard to count either for him at this point

    3 & 9 - Seeing that the presidential race is still an "in the future" thing and the field is not set, it's hard to shuffle these over to the Obama side yet. Incomplete at the moment, until we know more. They may become one, but it's not for sure yet.

    At the moment, the only thing Obama has solidly in his corner is that he is an Incumbent, he looks to have no contested primary (one could still crop up too) and there have been no major scandals as yet.
     
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    He also has the advantage of money, the fact that the opposition is even LESS popular than he is, and even though the economy is terrible, most don't blame him for it.

    IOW, he's more popular than he should be given the conditions in the country right now.

    And you're also misreading the foreign policy question. Killing bin Laden was unquestionably a foreign policy success, regardless of its short-term political impact. It's a huge feather in his cap and one you can rest assured he'll be campaigning on. Not only that, but you might have noticed that he also managed to take out Al Qaeda's "CEO" recently as well, effectively crippling the organization.

    Obama has been a pretty strong FP president, Afghanistan notwithstanding.
     
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    And I think most of us agree that he would lose to a "generic Republican" right now.

    However, the GOP so far seems excited to nominate a loony Republican instead.

    Assuming the economy doesn't improve, the GOP largely controls the destiny of the election. Nominate a Romney or Huntsman, Republicans win; nominate Bachman, Perry, etc., Obama wins.
     
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    Why do you people keep ignoring Hillary, she knows she would would have won the last time if it wern't for The Racists now she knows that even many of them are fed up with Obama, Hillary will be back and Hillary will win.
     
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    For a lib anyone to the left of Karl Marx is a looney conservative. We could sure use another Reagan right about now who cleaned up Carter's mess.
     
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    Which Reagan do you want? The guy put on a pedestal by the right or the guy who raised taxes as he knew revenue was kind of important?
     
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    You mean the guy who would have trouble surviving in today's Republican party, not to mention winning a presidential primary?
     
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