Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by mikey, Aug 20, 2006.
I wish you liberals would get together and work out some sort of agreement on what exactly the word "neocon" means. I used to proudly consider myself a "neocon" until I read what some group of liberals considered a neocon to be... So I was like "well, that doesn't really describe me then"... But now we have the Great William F. being called a neocon... so I guess I am back to being a proud neocon....
William F. is an old school to the core.
Much like Inigo Montoya in "The Princess Bride" said, "I do not think that word means what you think it means"
Buckley's not so extreme right.
He supports the legalization of Marijuana. What kind o neo con does that?
I said old school, not extreme.
I'm not necessarily against pot being legalized either.
Another conservative rat deserts the foundering ship.
Coincidently, did you see where the GOP are not supporting thier Republican candidate in Ct, but rather backing an Independent.
foundership ship? the same ship that has sailed to election victory after election victory?
Let's see he won the first one 5-4 in the Supreme Court. and the other by 300k in Ohio. I wouldn't exactly call that a dominating victory.
Buckley is not a neo con just like libs to throw around terms they don't know the meaning of.
I think liberals consider it a derogatory term, so anyone they disagree with politically is labelled a "neocon". Unfortunately, as we have aptly demonstrated, they just can't quite agree on what the word itself actually means.
The meaning of the word "neocon" has pretty much evolved into just another word liberals use to describe conservatives.
Buckley is about as far from a neconservative as you can get. He's an old fashioned fiscal conservative, much like Reagan.
There is a HUGE difference. The neocons believe in spreading democracy throughout the world by any means necessary including military force. Their point is that the more democracies throughout the world the more stable the world is. That's not the liberal definition. That's their definition. It sounds great, but the only problem is that it doesn't work and is extremely costly both in terms of real money, human life and military resources as we have all seen.
A corollary to the neocon view is the spread of christianity which is why low lifes like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell cheered on the Iraq war. Robertson and Falwell view the conquering of countries like Iraq as a way to advance the message of Jesus, which is in itself sick and demented and about as far away from what Jesus stood for as one can get. But hey, those private jets and vacations homes don't pay for themselves. New converts = big money.
Fiscal conservatives, who have basically been banished from the GOP, are good people who believe in a strong national defense, low taxes and limited govt., but don't believe it's our job to play policeman to the world. They are not religious extremists. In fact GWB's father was an old fashioned fiscal conservative. I wish they had a stronger voice in their party, but alas, their day is done.
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