Welcome to PatsFans.com

Neocon architect says: 'Pull it down'

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by DarrylS, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. DarrylS

    DarrylS PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    41,022
    Likes Received:
    109
    Ratings:
    +189 / 7 / -23

    One of the authors of the Neo Con Movement has said the following, first Grover Norquist now Fukuyama...pretty soon it will only be GWB, Cheney, Rush and the rest of the right wing main stream media crew...

    http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=266122006

    NEOCONSERVATISM has failed the United States and needs to be replaced by a more realistic foreign policy agenda, according to one of its prime architects.

    Francis Fukuyama, who wrote the best-selling book The End of History and was a member of the neoconservative project, now says that, both as a political symbol and a body of thought, it has "evolved into something I can no longer support". He says it should be discarded on to history's pile of discredited ideologies.


    In an extract from his forthcoming book, America at the Crossroads, Mr Fukuyama declares that the doctrine "is now in shambles" and that its failure has demonstrated "the danger of good intentions carried to extremes".

    In its narrowest form, neoconservatism advocates the use of military force, unilaterally if necessary, to replace autocratic regimes with democratic ones.
  2. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,672
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    Wow, Francis is a genius! "OOPS! I had no idea it would be wrong to become a militarily aggressive, idealogically-based government intent on world domination." Sounds like something Himler would have said.
  3. Harry Boy

    Harry Boy Look Up, It's Amazing PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2005
    Messages:
    39,150
    Likes Received:
    127
    Ratings:
    +348 / 1 / -9

    Fukyuama? :singing: :singing: :singing:
  4. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    17,766
    Likes Received:
    132
    Ratings:
    +169 / 4 / -4

    From the same article:

    "The most basic misjudgment was an overestimation of the threat facing the United States from radical Islamism," he argues.

    "Although the new and ominous possibility of undeterrable terrorists armed with weapons of mass destruction did indeed present itself, advocates of the war wrongly conflated this with the threat presented by Iraq and with the rogue state/proliferation problem more generally."

    ...

    Going further, he says the movements' advocates are Leninists who "believed that history can be pushed along with the right application of power and will. Leninism was a tragedy in its Bolshevik version, and it has returned as farce when practised by the United States".
  5. All_Around_Brown

    All_Around_Brown Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2005
    Messages:
    3,098
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    Kristol, Libby, Wolfowitz, Perle and the rest of the neo-cons will be damned to hell for eternity for the crimes they have perpetrated in the name of "freedom".
  6. PatsFanInEaglesLand

    PatsFanInEaglesLand Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2004
    Messages:
    3,795
    Likes Received:
    44
    Ratings:
    +87 / 6 / -10

    #37 Jersey

    And what is going to happen to you and your bunch for all the people who have died and suffered at the hands of liberalism?
  7. Pujo

    Pujo Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    6,572
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    Sucks, but we're not talking about anywhere near as many people, by factors of a hundred or more.
  8. FreeTedWilliams

    FreeTedWilliams pfadmins PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    5,286
    Likes Received:
    38
    Ratings:
    +91 / 31 / -3

    #75 Jersey

    Republicans need to and will move to the RIGHT in the next election. Bush has been way too liberal for most Republicans. He spends like a drunken sailor and refused to do anything about illegal immigraiton. Romney doesn't have a pray (literally) in any Republican primary that is not held northeast of New York State.
  9. PatsFanInEaglesLand

    PatsFanInEaglesLand Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2004
    Messages:
    3,795
    Likes Received:
    44
    Ratings:
    +87 / 6 / -10

    #37 Jersey

    BS at least 100 million ad possibly up to 10x more have died at the hands of liberalism.
  10. All_Around_Brown

    All_Around_Brown Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2005
    Messages:
    3,098
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    ah yes, more BS from your pea brain.
  11. Pujo

    Pujo Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2005
    Messages:
    6,572
    Likes Received:
    4
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    I can already tell this is going to be a "my dad can beat up your dad" convesation. Whatever.
  12. All_Around_Brown

    All_Around_Brown Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2005
    Messages:
    3,098
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    Its all these chuckleheads have left now that Bush has left them speechless.
  13. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,672
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    WTF are you talking about?
  14. PatsWickedPissah

    PatsWickedPissah PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2005
    Messages:
    23,077
    Likes Received:
    363
    Ratings:
    +820 / 8 / -10

    Disable Jersey

    *** was dead wrong with his ludicrous "End of History" so it's no surprise he's still wrong now. DUH!!!

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>