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NEM, your Hobbs' wager, are you for real?

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  1. Box_O_Rocks

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    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showpost.php?p=321761&postcount=49
    You offered this bet to Sooner, here's your chance to get me off the forum for the 2007 season, I'm willing to take this bet if we can agree on the ground rules:

    I'll take your bet, providing the reason Hobbs does not start is because he was either cut from the team or loses his starting job to another player in Training Camp. If he is injured or suspended by the NFL, then the wager is nullified. Samuel's status with the team has no bearing on the wager. The losing wager prevents that member from posting on this or any other Patriots' forum during the 2007 NFL season which ends with the beginning of Free Agency in 2008. I believe this was the intent of your wager with Sooner, do you agree to these conditions? Are you willing to make this bet with me? Or are you just talking out your backside again.
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    I'll take it too. You can get rid of me and Box for a year each - or you're gone for two :)
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    While I think NEM would be foolish to take your bet, I think that the bolded section should be removed. If Hobbs is beaten out in training camp doesn't that mean that he is not as good as people think, ergo NEM is correct?
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    so it only works if Hobbs is cut not replaced - hell he'll be on the roster next season no matter what so it needs to be not starting and the language should remain the same
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    I've been on message boards a long time, yet I've never understood the appeal of these "Loser Leaves Town" matches.
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    There are multiple possibilities to cause Hobbs not start at CB in the 2007 opener. The item you bolded is one of the two possibilities I understood to meet NEM's criteria - if Hobbs is such a poor CB, then he will be cut from the team or lose his starter's job to another CB - any other possibility involves factors not related to Hobbs' performance.

    EDIT: By the way, this is NEM's bet. I'm just the poor sap he's going to take advantage of with his vast knowledge of football - as for foolish, we are talking about NEM aren't we?
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    I guess I misread it. I thought it was saying that Hobbs losing his job in training camp would dsiqualify the bet, and that seemed odd.
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    I haven't had such a good laugh in 9 days.......
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    Misread. See above post.
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    The point is, we don't think NEM is correct. The only thing that would concern me about this is how Belichick sometimes matches guys up and there's a small chance that Hobbs could still be "the starter" but not actually be on the field the first play due to a matchup against, say, a big WR - but as he played 1-1 against the solidly sized Wayne, that's a very unlikely scenario.
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    Consider it a public service :)
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    It's showdown at the OK Corral!
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    If it is then the snow falling outside is out of character for the Community!

    Actually Fixit, it isn't a loser leaves town, it's more of an extended winter vacation. :cool:
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    can someone explain to me what Nem's problem with Hobbs is?

    I thought Hobbs played great against Indy.
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    Actually, I'm surprised by casual nature of NEM's bet. I'd figure with his aristocratic attitude, the response would be more like "pistols at twenty paces".
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    Make it something much better in the bet. To not post for a certain amount of time is bad, its "out of site, out of mind".

    I propose the battling sides write a SIG and avatar for the other. These must be posted before hand. The loser(s) must display that sig and avatar for all of next season....
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    It's for those of us who don't like fighting and killing in real life. Rather than having to get involved in real fights, where people get hurt, we can do stuff like this and nobody actually gets hurt. It's not my thing, personally, but I can see where they are coming from.

    Oh, and for the record, I think that Hobbs will be one of our starting corners (as in base 3-4) next season.
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    What's to stop the loser from registering as NOT-NEM or Carton_Of_Pebbles and posting up a storm?

    I don't know why everybody needs others to agree with them. The boards are supposed to be a way to exchange ideas.

    Just agree to disagree, until one person is proven wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    Like Brady vs Bledsoe.............can I get a holla from all those who think Drew is better............... (silence)...................... (silence)...........
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    This is a waste of time.

    I offered a deal to NEM a week or so ago. I offered that if the majority of posters on this board thought that McDaniels was not a qualified NFL OC (as he claimed), I would not post or start any thread regarding the OC or play calling,ever.

    But, if the majority of posters on this board thought that he was a qualified NFL OC, he would not post anythng regarding the OC or play calling,ever. A poll was to done for a week and bumped so everyone had a chance to vote.

    He ignored my offer and then ignored it again when I restated that offer. So, I don't think he will take you up on this.
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    Speaking for a member and reader, I don't like the terms of this deal. By all means, bet--but don't offer or accept silence. Instead, try betting something useful, such as giving $20 to the other person's favorite charity.
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    Now those are useful terms. Winner gets bragging rights and a charity gets a few bucks they can put to good use.
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    How about instead of leaving the forum, the loser has to make a contribution to Miguel's charity?
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    [​IMG]

    gun fight at the P.A.T. Corral

    20 paces at high noon
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    Yeah, the get outta town by sundown bet sux.
    I would miss any of your posts. Even NEM. No one posts with more blind passion and enthusiasm than Mike.;)

    I like the sig and avatar thing, along with a donation to Miguels charity. THAT is a wager where the winner gets to rub it into the face of the loser every time the loser posts for a year. AND it really helps people.
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    Or, the loser does the Samauri thing![​IMG]
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    Lay off NEM, please. You guys can be real jerks sometimes.
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    I certainly am, but since he wanted to offer a put up or shut up deal, I'm just too weak willed to resist. :D
  29. HEY BRO! WHAT UP?

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    So let me get this straight. NEM believes that Hobbs won't even make the roster next season? On the other hand, Box O Rocks believes that Hobbs will stay on the roster and start next season? NEM's wager is a little risky because Hobbs is pretty young and it's very seldom that organizations cut starting corners that are still young and may have some potential. I believe that Hobbs will stay on the roster and would be a great DB as a nickel and dime but not as a full time starter. NEM is right, Hobbs gets juked out of position a lot. Also guys, don't forget about Eugene Wilson. What the hell hapened to that guy this season? He was getting juked on a regular basis. I understand that the best corners in the league get juked every now and then but Hobbs and Wilson were regulars at that. The position needs an upgrade. You can tell because during the season Belicheck kept starting other corners over Hobbs. I will cut Hobbs some slack because the guy did play with a freakin' cast on his hand the whole season. But Wilson, I don't know what the hell was wrong with that guy. With that said, either the Pats sign a veteran corner or draft one in the first round.
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    The problem with this point of view, and NEMs for that matter, is that it offers absolutely no consideration for the improvement Hobbs made from year 1 to year 2 and thus, no room for any future improvement he will make. People forget, this is not a grizzed veteran. This is a guy who is playing a complicated position against some big time talent this past season -- Javon Walker, Wayne, Harrison, Chad Johnson etc.--who has 2 years of experience. Few if any NFL players fully develop in 2 years. I'm not sure why Hobbs is expected to do so.
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