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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.There you go, someone just needs to seach NEM's amost 11,000 postsNEM said:It is somewhere in my archives because i was the one that initially brought it up.
BelichickFan said:What I remember, there was no specific statements that Belichick took over the playcalling or the gameplanning.
However :
- The defensive players were questioning the conservative playcalling, that is for sure as we all saw the quotes. Soon after, things changed.
- Mangini lost his red shirt for several games. That is also for sure as we saw it with our own eyes. Who was calling the plays then, who knows. Maybe Mangini but, if so, why was he not wearing the red shirt ?
- Speculation from one of the writers with "sources" (which makes it a little more uncertain) was that Mangini was protecting "his" secondary too much once Harrison was out. Also, equally damning, maybe more so, the "sources" said that Mangini had trouble going from position coach to DC and didn't take and get control of the defensive meetings.
It was all fairly well documented and adds up to some definite issues. But I'm not subscribing to those papers to prove it
NEM said:Basically, what hapapened, from my memory, is that Seymour and McGinest approached Mangini halfway through the season and suggested some different, and more agressive defensive schemes, and more of an attacking mode...and it worked.....
Up until that time, I thought Mangini's defensive philosophy was far too soft.
The way the stories went, the players tried this with Mangini and got nowhere - eventually they had to go to Belichick who forced the issue. True ? Who knows.JoeSixPat said:So generally I give credit for Mangini being willing to take heed of his players' input, and can understand why he didn't feel his D was initially ready to be agressive with a patchwork secondary and other key cogs missing
oh yeah, i forgot the obvious response: how's the colt's defense working out for them?BelichickFan said:The way the stories went, the players tried this with Mangini and got nowhere - eventually they had to go to Belichick who forced the issue. True ? Who knows.