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    This is kinda F'd up I think. We need vouchers & school choice ASAP.


    NEA Teachers Have Become Re-Educators

    By PHYLLIS SCHLAFLY | Posted Friday, July 25, 2008 4:30 PM PT

    The nation's largest teachers union, the National Education Association, attracted 9,000 delegates to its annual convention in Washington, D.C., over the July Fourth weekend. Delegates sported buttons with provocative slogans such as "Gay marriage causes global warming only because we are so hot," "Hate is not a family value," "The Christian right is neither" and "Gay rights are civil rights."

    The delegates passed dozens of hard-hitting resolutions that now become the NEA's official policy. The resolutions authorize NEA members and employees to lobby for those goals in the halls of Congress and state capitols.

    NEA resolutions cover the waterfront of all sorts of political issues that have nothing to do with improving education for schoolchildren, such as supporting statehood for the District of Columbia, a "single-payer health care plan" (i.e., government run), gun control, ratification of the International Criminal Court Treaty and taking steps "to change activities that contribute to global climate change."

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    The NEA wants every child, regardless of age, to have "direct and confidential access, without notification to parents, to comprehensive health education. That would include things such as learning how to use condoms for premarital sex, as well as social, and psychological programs and services."


    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=301879032979533
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    I wish we could save posts like this and look back at them in fifty years.
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    Quoting a nutjob like Phyllis Schlafly lends credence to nothing in the article. The woman is insane.
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    Phyllis Shafly is an objective writer who has not specific agenda, we should dwell upon every word as she spaketh the truth.. wonder the last time she knocked off a piece. guess at 84 years old she still has some good memories. OTOH an ass clown of the first degree, cannot believe anyone would post something she wrote and thinks it may be credible.
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    Do you have a link indicating these are not the positions espoused by the NEA?

    We know they have a hard left agenda.
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    It's the irrational fear of the NEA by an irrational, senile nut that I'm talking about. If I posted an essay by Al Sharpton about the NRA I doubt it would command much respect from you. That's how some of us feel about Schlafly.
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    IOW she is correct about the stated agenda, but you think this is OK.
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    Maybe you didn't read her whole column, but I found her presentation paranoid and one sided. Rather ridiculous in fact. The NEA wants to create a climate in schools that's safe for children, including gay kids and other minorities. The NEA wants to teach tolerance and respect. The NEA wants kids to be prepared for the real world, not create some sort of fascistic Disneyland where we pretend various groups don't really exist or matter. Her point of view is not merely conservative, it's paranoid. A legitimate discussion on the issues can be had, but first you have to talk about the problems that the NEA is trying to address. She avoided that, and simply used scare tactics. She's a right wing nut.
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    So you don't dispute the content merely the 'presentation', well many of the issues the NEA addresses are ones I asa parent don't want addressed in elementary and HS.

    It is not the business of the Public school system to push a hard left political agenda anymore than it is the agenda of the schools to advocate a conservative agenda. Imagine if the NEA were pushing Christianity rather than promoting gay rights?

    I especially object to the NEA trying to turn Home Schooling into a crimianl activity, especially given the terrible (criminal?) performance of public education.


    Her points are well taken
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    More like they want to use the education system to indoctrinate kids into following their world view. Sadly, so few parents know what's going on here. Parents send their kids to school thinking they're being educated, and instead, they're being indoctrinated and brainwashed. The fact that these unions are so involved in advertising politically should raise red flags about their objectivity.
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    blah blah blah, everything is "indocrination." If you are opposed to your children learning tolerance then too bad. 50 years ago paents were outraged because the schools were teaching white kids that they had to accept white kids. Now it's homosexuals. You're a dying breed and 50 years from now you'll look foolish and hateful just like people did 50 years ago.
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    Sound like the approach to education taken in the old Solviet Union....

    Do you have kids?
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    Here we go again lol. A lot of parents would agree with me so whether I have kids or not is irrelevant. And would you care to provide a source that says the Soviet Union taught tolerance to school children with regards to homosexuals, or are you just talking out of your ass? I don't know the first thing about the Soviet education system but perhaps you could fill me in on how it's even remotely similar to this.
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    I have grandchildren and am very involved in their educational processes... very satisfied with what is going on in school, lots of challenges.. personally I believe the pendulum has gone too far and needs to swing back slightly to the center.

    What happens at an NEA convention, does not necessarily happen in the classroom.. the local school district dictates the curriculum no the NEA..
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    #24 Jersey

    I want the schools to stay out of it. I don't want to undo what the schools teach my kids. I have already discussed with them that MMGW is crap and that homosexuality is wrong, etc, and I don't want to have to undo the damage the schools do.
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    The SU used their schools to indoctriniate their children.

    IF you had kids would you want the schools pushing a 'conservative' agenda on your kids?


    What business is it of the state to decide what values are to be imparted onto children? That is the job of the child's parents.
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    being tolerant of other people isn't a liberal or conservative value. Just like integregation wasn't a "left wing" value.

    And do you have any concrete examples for "SU used their schools to indoctrinate their children?" Or is that just useless hyperbole? There's absolutely no comparison here with the Soviet Union, other than the fact that you foolishly conflate anything you disagree with with Marxism, and therefore communism and therefore the Soviet Union. Each leap of faith in this chain of nonsense reflects your flawed outlook.

    Every society in the world has used school to "indoctrinate" children in one way or another, but that has no bearing here. Just look at the fairy tales we teach kids about Christopher Columbus or the Capitalist ideology we instill in children in school and you'll see that it's impossible to educate anyone about any subject without someone seeing it as "indoctrination."
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    One can view abortion as an example of 'tolerance' or personal choice others view abortion as murder. Some view homosexuality as a choice, some as a genetic fact, others view it as a moral problem that is destructive to society, and don't view it as a matter of tolerance at all

    Who made you (or the NEA) God to decide in a 'free' society what is or is not tolerant? That is very arrogant and presumptious of you Wildo.


    Are you serious? or just a product/victim of our public schools???:rolleyes:




    OOOHHH capitalist ideology....This is why I favor vouchers so people in a free society can raise kids as they see fit, without a leftist agenda being forced on them.

    Your post is an excellant example of the arrogance of the left.
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    Since when do schools take a stance on abortion? That's just right wing hysteria right there. If you view homosexuality as a choice, it doesn't excuse discrimination against them. And your view is just factually incorrect. If you view race-mixing, homosexuality, atheism etc. as a "moral problem that is destructive to society," you can hold that view at home but it's not allowed in schools because it is hateful and downright idiotic.

    Having our school systems educate children from k-12 without dealing with these issues is just plain naive and ludicrous. Children have a right to physiological and biological information as well as the right to protect themselves regardless of how dumb there parents are. Teaching kids about sexual reproduction and how to protect themselves is arming them with information their parents do not have the right to keep from them. Call it "communist" or "Anarchist" or "socialist" or whatever silly label you want to attach to it, but that's not going to change no matter how backwards parents want to be.

    The point was that anything can be seen as "indoctrination." Or are you trying to claim that cpitalist ideology isn't taught to our children in schools? And take note that I didn't attach a negative or positive connotation to that, you assigned it yourself.

    And yours is a perfect example of the ignorance and naivete of the right. You'd rather lie to and hide information from children than arm them with the ability to make better decisions. Rather than try to improve all schools, lets take the smart kids out of the bad schools and make them even worse.

    And for the record I went to Loomis Chaffee, a prep school in Connecticut as well as Fay school in Southboro. But I take it you still don't have a concrete example of Soviet Union indoctrination, you just threw that out there for the sake of it's negative impact.
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