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  1. Triumph

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    Its true and its not doom and gloom.

    In todays NFL it takes more than 1 guy to brain storm.KC will be 3 - 0 after next week large in part because of two ex NE Coordinators.
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    You do know they are absolutley ripping Charlie Weis in KC right?

    Know why? Cause it's a knee jerk reaction.

    That applies to about 90% of the threads today including this one...
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    I have been concerned that bill is spreading himself too thin. But who knows how we would be with weis and crennel.
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    Totally man! Weis and Crennel are known for never losing division games on the road! In fact they have never lost a single game while together!
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    32 NFL message boards and after every loss you know who gets blamed? The coordinators, because fans don't have any connection with them and they are easy scapegoats.
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    The Chiefs played the Browns today - we should all be so lucky.

    They were outgained 389 to 197 (yes, outgained by about double) against SD. Good thing for those kick returners but I don't think Charlie and Romeo had much to do with that.
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    Matt Cassel, and that offense sucks KC has two RB's that could start on any team the pats don't even have one and no DC could make this defense look any better then it dose right now



    there is less talent on this defense then last year i dont see how RC can fix that
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    I live in KC and they and they are happy as a pig in ***** to be 2 - 0.
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    You could not be more wrong.

    Crennels D kept them in the game and Weis's halftime adjustment on O saved the game.

    Check the stats if you dont believe me.
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    How about NE is a different team when it has more veterans.

    It's going to be a very long week. :ugh:
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    This thread needs to be archived in the "2005 Threads" section.
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    Those guys are damn good E.

    Vrabel too.
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    That BS

    A vet DC or OC can adjust to any roster.
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    :rofl: ... players wins games Triumph ... what school you went.
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    I watched both games. The Chiefs' offense was bad in both, the defense looked good against SD although the rain made it difficult on both teams. The Chiefs' offense is horrible right now, Thank God for Cleveland for them - a squeaker vs. the Browns isn't a good way to show how great a team is currently running.
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    If this board had an assclown asylum you would be President.
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    Need i dig up all the Weiss needs to go threads that we once had here???
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    Management and schemes win games.

    You can have the bests players in the NFL in the wrong scheme and lose your axx. Imagine Brady in Shannahans bootleg offense? Totally wrong since Brady is a pocket passer. Though, McNabb works in Washington because he is somewhat mobile.
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    No one can argue those points....but KC did win, isn't that the point?



    KC's not NE, and Cassel is not Brady. With that said though I would much rather have Rac and Weis here than there.
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    Oh, let me guess, you are the original poster. Sorry, what an incredible thread. I'm sure by the end of the season KC will be 13-3 and NE will be 5-11.

    It's not like it's been over five years since either one actually coached this team.
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    I would take RAC back all day long ...

    Not so sure about Weiss ... he's good but not great IMO.
    We didn't win with offense when he was here ... but he was good enough to earn his rings.
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    The main thing with Rac and Weis is that BB trusted them and their judgement. He could focus on being the HC instead of trying to do so many things.
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    That's false. (16 teams win each week, and not all fans are critical of ALL coordinators, it's called a hasty generalization.) Could some coordinators be criticized because they actually *call* the plays that suck?


    Oh, and there are far more than 32 message boards, too. ;)
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    Sorry, but I think you're off the mark here.

    "Players win games Trumph":

    I agree with you to an extent--the lack of playmakers on our D, (you know, guys who do things like Jason Taylor did today) was painfully obvious, but I hope you're not trying to say that coordinators have little or nothing to do with how their players perform during the game.
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    He didnt have Weis and Rac in 07, I think hes delegating more than we think even though no one has the DC or OC designation.
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    if they would just stop trying to force the ball to moss all the freakin time they would be fine. i remember when the open man got the ball period.
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    One can already see the influence in KC, which is a surprising 2-0.

    Last week the KC defense made a HUGE goal line stand to win that game, not to mention had a few huge interceptions in timely moments.

    The offense through 2 weeks has done just enough to win, with timely plays in key moments.

    Both of these sound a lot like Crennel defenses and Weiss offenses.

    The way these guys play call, their units take on a certain personality and style that is identifiable. Play calling is definitely a skill, and it makes a difference.
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    I aint sayin KC will be 13 and whatever.

    Schemes win games. Management. The right kind pulling the string's.
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    Yeah, I mean, whatever facts you want to bring up but.... the winning coordinators for this team have been Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel.

    16-0 is nice but a fourth Super Bowl would have been nicer.
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    I noticed that as well Capt.
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