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  1. everlong

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    Jesus vs Horus

    Comparing Jesus to Horus

    1. Both were conceived of a virgin.

    2. Both were the "only begotten son" of a god (either Osiris or Yahweh)

    3. Horus's mother was Meri, Jesus's mother was Mary.

    4. Horus's foster father was called Jo-Seph, and Jesus's foster father was Joseph.

    5. Both foster fathers were of royal descent.

    ....goes to 46

    Jesus vs Krishna

    Jesus as a reincarnation of Krishna

    (1) Krishna was miraculously conceived and born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One") as a divine incarnation.
    (2) He was born at a time when his family had to travel to pay the yearly tax.
    (3) His father was a carpenter yet Krishna was born of royal descent.
    (4) His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gifts.
    (5) He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants who feared that the divine child would supplant his kingdom.

    .......goes to 22
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    If I understand this correctly, the Greek word for Horus is Apollyon, which is on the back of the seal of the dollar bill(and on one of the DC main monuments, I think).

    Apollyon, according to Rev 9:11, is the Rev 13 One World antichrist dictator ascending out of the bottomless pit, that will run the last 3 1/2 to 7 year tribulation before Jesus comes back.

    Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
    Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
    Rev 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
    Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
    Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
    Rev 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
    Rev 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
    Rev 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
    Rev 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
    Rev 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
    Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

    Steve Quayle and Tom Horn has talked quite a bit about transhumanism and the rise of the nephelim in the latter days, and how the elite and our government is working behind the scenes.

    Steve Quayle's World: It's a Blast!

    They did shows on 6/25 and 6/29, and are archived on the left under "Survive 2 Thrive" on the left - some very mind-blowing stuff.

    BTW - Even CNN and the other mainstream networks like Nancy Grace, Rush Limbaugh, and the History Channel are pushing 'lord maitreya' in their ads, and how he's all these gods wrapped into one. The elite is pushing for their "masonic christ"(no coincidence that they put the Apollo symbol on the dollar bill and other DC monuments).

    YouTube - MAITREYA Star CNN Commercial LOOK FOR HIS RETURN!!!! 2ND COMING!!

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    Incorrect. The Greek for Horus is Ὡρος (Horos).

    Did you care to actually address the points made by everlong?
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    http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/JesusHorus.html

    This part of the Deceptions of the One World Religion - where supposedly ALL "faiths" lead to One. Last year, the mainstream networks were pushing ads for 'lord maitreya' and his 'masters of wisdom', and it advertised it as just that("He's the Christ to Christians, Messiah to the Jews, Muhammed to the Muslims, Maitreya to the Buddhists, Krishna to the Hindus, etc"). When I saw what the OP posted, it reminded me alot of what's been going on in current events recently we don't hear on the news.

    Seriously - I would be very careful with this stuff - Rev 14 says if one takes the mark of the beast, they're going to be thrown in the lake of fire for all eternity. The Rev 13 beast and his sidekick false prophet will be coming with all lying signs and wonders to deceive the world, and act like they have the "solutions to all ills".

    Edit-the eye of horus is on the back of the dollar bill...

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    Freemason and Occult symbols abound on the $1 bill
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    There's a difference between noting the derivative symbolism used to reconstruct the Jesus birth narrative in the gospel accounts, and pushing a one-world religion.

    What everlong points out is that the Jesus myth is woven with bits and pieces of myths regarding pre-existent messianic figures in the region.

    He is not trying to say we should all worship some big blob world religion, which seems to concern you to no end. He is taking a step back and noticing that much of the Jesus narrative is a re-hash of preexisting mythology. Jesus is mythology warmed over, in that sense, if you insist on biblical literalism. It's fine in a vacuum, but there are so many similarities that anybody serious about studying the preexistent sources has to realize that those who wrote the stories in the gospels were weaving together themes expected by their readerships.

    Weaving in the "superman" themes of the ancient world to establish Jesus' superhuman stature is not dishonest; it is how literature is written. It is simply not history or reportage.

    Similarly, many other themes come from the Mosaic narrative, or are common to both the Mosaic narrative and the Jesus story, yet are also common elsewhere in the ancient world (the tyrant searching for an infant to slaughter, who must be spirited away, for example.)

    And the flood story in Genesis has portions - and an overall theme - that are lifted directly from the Gilgamesh epic. In the former, Noah releases a raven, who does not return, then a dove who comes back with an olive branch, signifying dry land somewhere nearby. In Gilgamesh it's a raven, a dove, and a swallow. And yes, the Gilgamesh records are dated well prior to the Genesis records.

    The point here is that ancient religions borrowed freely from one another. To call one "mythology" and the other a "religion" just becomes sillier, as you understand that one's own "religion" is composed of the "mythology" to a large extent.

    One can argue for a different use of the same symbols and therefore a significantly different meaning; but to regard the symbols themselves as self-evidently indicative of a "mythological" underpinning, rather than a proper "religious" one, is just silly.

    Tuna, your fixation on the terrible threat of ecumenism seems similarly misplaced. If you worship Jesus, what difference does it make to you that others note the presence of messianic figures in other faiths, and postulate that the Word is available "in translation"?

    What difference does it make to you if someone notes the similarities between other messianic traditions and the one to which you adhere? What's so damn threatening about it?

    PFnV
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    Good post. This is the type of discussion I'd prefer to see more of around here.

    In any case, I find interesting the paranoia among Christian eschatologists regarding the idea of "one world religion". This is the stated goal of Christianity itself, is it not? Are not Christian missionaries working to promote Christianity at every corner of the globe?
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    Exactly.

    Just like the Romans took from the Greeks and made Jupiter from Zeus and Neptune from Poseidon, etc, thus the Christians stole from the Egyptians and Hindus in building up the myth of Christ. There's a shared cultural mythology that's evident to everybody except for the apologists.


    Apologetics
    (from Greek απολογία, "speaking in defense") is the discipline of defending a position (usually religious) through the systematic use of reason.

    Early Christian writers (c 120-220) who defended their faith against critics and recommended their faith to outsiders were called apologists.[1]

    In modern times, apologists refers to authors, writers, editors or academic journals, and leaders known for defending the points in arguments, conflicts or positions that receive great popular scrutinies and/or are minority views.
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