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My Takeaways from the Week 9 matchup and why this time will be much different

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    My takeaways from the Week 9 matched vs the Giants (my best Reiss impersonation)

    Spikes and Fletcher are healthy, we probably won't be seeing the likes of Tracy White and Gary Guyton playing. This is an advantage because White was burned twice on the Giants last TD scoring drive, once on the 29 yard catch by Ballard where White had bad coverage on him and the second time he bit on a play action that freed up Ballard for the game winning TD. Gary Guyton has seen his playing time decrease since his poor performance since taking over for Spikes, he did not play at a high level.

    Assuming Chung and Ihedigbo remain healthy through the game, I don't expect to see Sergio Brown getting any snaps at safety as he was victimized by a pass interference penalty that put the Giant at the 1 yard line. He hasn't gotten many snap there since. I expect to see McCourty and as the top backup if Chung or Ihedigbo do down.

    Ochocinco was targeted 5 times with zero catches in the Week 9 meeting He was in one 18 or 79 snaps. Easily his most extensive playing time as a Patriot. He logged one snap against Denver and was inactive in the match against Baltimore. I don't see any reason why a low snap count shouldn't be expected in this matchup assuming he is activated for the game. (And no, he's not the secret weapon I've heard about)

    Patriots are known to take care of the ball. Edelman fumbled after the defense forced a 3 and out but was evened out when Arrington intercepted Eli in the end zone. I don't expect the Patriots to play sloppy for a second straight game. After such a sloppy game, I expect a much cleaner game this time around.

    They played sloppy in the first matchup and still almost won.

    I don't expect Gostkowski to miss a 27-yard field goal this time around like he did at the end of the first half, but anything is possible in these playoffs (Cundiff anyone?)

    This was Brandon Deaderick's first game back. He been a staple there since and has played well.

    Albert Haynesworth won't be there this time around to open up lanes for the Giants running backs. We probably won't be seeing any Ron Brace in this matchup either. He has struggled and is sure to be on the bubble with the play of Kyle Love surpassing that of Brace's.

    Philip Adams is no longer with the team, he had tight coverage against Barden and failed to make a play as Barden made the catch for a first down. He sucked.

    Josh Barrett is now on IR.

    Poor coaching and execution:
    They scored too quick and left too much time on the clock for Eli to mount a comeback. They should have learned from the previous matchup.

    It was first down, 2:39 to play. The handoff was given to Woodhead and it became 2nd and 1 on their 40. In my opinion, this should have taken it down to the two minute warning. Instead, we hurried it up and ran another draw to pick up the first with 2:20 to play. Then we hurried up again to snap the ball at 2:04 for an incomplete pass to Woodhead. At this point the warning still has yet to hit. We got the first on the next play to the 15 but after the warning, Woodhead stepped out of bounds on a run that I'm sure was called for the sole purpose of letting the clock run. It was a wasted play. After than, 3 shots to the end zone, trying to get that TD and daring Eli to comeback.
     
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    I just watched TB miss a TD to Hernandez in the endzone via NFL Replay. Yeah, the Pats are winning this game!
     
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    If Edelman is playing defense, we are so screwed. I would think that Eli and his horde of receivers are frothing at the mouth over that performance that he gave in the AFCCG. JE is still looking for his shorts that he got faked out of on the last Baltimore drive.
     
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    Pass rush was AWFUL
     
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    crowd was very quiet that week compared to other games.

    silly mental mistakes that game, a game they should have won
     
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    The crowd has sucked for the most part all season..IMO
     
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    If he's on Nicks or Cruz, yeah. Manningham he could maybe stay with.

    I have no idea how he got paired up with Anquan Boldin I mean of course he's going to get toasted
     
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    The OP is pretty much on point
     
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    What was easily the most frustrating part about that game was the clock management at the end of the second half (as the original poster points out). I remember yelling at the TV. By the Patriots desperation to save time, you would have thought they were on their own 10 yard line instead of nearing the opponents red zone.
     
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    Completely disagree. I was at 9 games this year and I thought that the crowd was good-to-great most games, especially compared to previous years.
     
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    After rewatching the game tonight:

    - We had 4 turnovers (Brady forcing a ball to Gronk with Welker open 5 yards underneath him, Brady strip-sacked (Boley beat Light), Edelman fumbled a punt return, and I missed the first INT).
    - Brady was forcing the ball to Ocho
    - Brady was generally off target on a lot of throws early on, he really got rolling late though
    - Stupid penalties (Arrington PI set up a Giants score late in the 4th, Sergio Brown (Who with any luck won't sniff the field) PI on the goal line with 26 seconds left)
    - Injuries (Chung hurt his foot, Spikes got injured) forced Brown, Guyton, and White into action in the 4th quarter, two of those players were directly responsible for the game winning TD, White in coverage, Brown on the PI at the goal line. Without those 2 playing, there was a good chance NYG settles for a FG or simply fails to score.

    If we can eliminate one INT and the ST Turnover (which gave NYG the ball at our 10, they scored the next play I believe) we win by 10 probably, despite the injuries.

    Edit: I want to see Tom throw the ball away in the SB if he has to. In the NYG and Ravens games if he didn't have what he wanted, he threw it anyways. He threw about 3 of his INTs doing this: Forced to Gronk vs NYG, forced to Edelman vs Ravens, forced to Slater vs Ravens.
     
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    I just cant understand how that ***** Manning has had success. Every time he throws when there's pressure he turns and chucks it, and it lands. He looks like a high school QB with his scrawny frame and limp wristed throwing style.

    He's not beating us again, not happening.
     
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    The Giants were without Nicks and Bradshaw, and Tuck was hurt and was not playing like he is now.

    I understand trying to find angles in our favor, but the bottom line is what happened that game will have no bearing on this game.

    Both teams are much better than they were during the week 9 matchup.
     
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    I agree. The Giants probably more so.

    But I would ask my Giants-fans friends this: The Patriots committed *4* turnovers and two ghastly penalties that led to NY touchdowns. There were four fumbles in the game and three of them were recovered by NY (causing a fumble is a skill; recovering one is mostly luck of the bounce). Gostowski missed a 27-yard FG. All that happened and the Giants barely won.

    Do you (to my friends) think that all that will happen again? Why?
     
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    I agree the teams are much better then in W9, and I think we enter this game playing pretty much the same level. I think that if Brady is a little more patient and has a good to very-good game, I think we win going away. I just think we are a better football team.

    I am concerned about Gronk's ankle though. Not that he won't play.... He will. But he may be pretty limited. That will hurt us.
     
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    That turnover was nullified actually because Arrington picked if off in the endzone, so the Giants didnt score. It was still something sloppy and hopefully he doesnt pull a Kyle Williams again.
     
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    He'll be activated for the game considering the only reason he was out of the Pats game is because he missed a bunch of walkthroughs and practices because of the death of his father. Like Gronk, there's no way you're keeping 85 out of this game.
     
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    Did you not see that second Brady INT in the AFCCG? They still haven't gotten that out of their system.
     
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    Maybe Josh has more of a say to over rule any stupid playcall like that boneheaded one.....
     
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