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    The Patriots appear to have plenty of cap room, and perhaps it was by design. This year seems to have an unusually deep and talented free agent pool. I think that Patriots should sign these players. If they would have to go over the cap (who knows - this is a wish list - not a legit plan), BB should just yell "SIGN THE BEAST" at Goodell and be granted an exception.

    RB - Ray Rice - This guy is only 25 and seems to be the sole reason that the Ravens are actually any good on offense. I'd love to have him here for his best years.

    WR - Brandon Lloyd - I dare say that Brandon Lloyd could be a better fit at this time for this offense than Welker. He will not replace Welker's production, and in a vacuum, Welker is better for this offense than Lloyd. However, factor in the fact that the Patriots do not have any deep threat whatsoever and that Welker's production could be distributed among Gronk, Hernandez, and Lloyd, and you have a case for Lloyd. Ideally, I'd have Lloyd replace Branch.

    DL - Mario Williams - We already have one amazing DL in Vince Wilfork. We need more defensive talent, and we could have Mario Williams for a long time.
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    You must be high off your ass if you think Ray Rice is going anywhere. But if Williams is healthy and can be signed at a reasonable price (not highest paid defensive player ever basically) I say pursue him aggressively.
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    My wish list includes
    Welker
    Carter
    Anderson

    I agree that Lloyd is a good choice, and a likely one.

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    Brandon Lloyd I heard is very interested in staying in STL, but either way why do people think he'd be so successful here? He's primarily a deep ball receiver and isn't the best route runner in the world. Brady's had little to no success with deep ball receivers not named Randy Moss (Brandon Tate, OchoCinco, Donte Stallworth, Chad Jackson, etc.). His deep ball just isn't accurrate and usually hangs in the air too long.

    I already said this in a draft thread but Reggie Wayne imo seems like a good fit and won't expect a long term deal given his age and unproductive season last year. We shouldn't overreact too much to how bad the receivers looked in the superbowl given that the best receiver on the team couldn't run.
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    BB never seems to do what we'll think, and since it's pie in the sky, I'll give you mine as well.

    Marcus Colston
    Brandon Carr
    and we can renew the offer to Dashon Goldson
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    Mine is

    1. Kate Upton

    2. Jennifer Aniston

    3. Heidi Watney

    Much more likely to happen than Mario Williams, Ray Rice and Brandon Lloyd!
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    Brandon Lloyd said he is following McDaniels wherever he goes. He did recently say that he was under contract and that he was open to staying, but it sounded more like his agent got to him and told him stop the "I am following McDaniels" crap so he doesn't get a crap contract. You can see the interview at this link:

    Brandon Lloyd would consider Rams return - CBSSports.com

    Why do people think Lloyd will be successful here because he was successful in Denver and St. Louis under McDaniels with lesser QBs. As for Brady's long ball, it might have to do with the receivers more than the passer. He has connected with several long balls this season.
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    You get Kate Upton here and she will ruin Gronk. He is too obsessed with her. It will be like Naomi Watts/Faye Wray/Jessica Lange and King Kong (whichever version you like). It would beauty that killed the Gronk.
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    So you're belittling Lloyd, who's 30 and playing the best football of his career and has shown he can thrive in the BB/McDaniels system, but you want to bring in a 33 year old Wayne who has started losing the ability to create separation out of his cuts?

    BTW, Brady had plenty of success throwing deep to the likes of Givens and Patten. It was the sort of success that won Super Bowls, as a matter of fact.
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    Centres are deep this year, I say we take one in the 4th or 5th round.

    I really like that Dwight Jones kid from NC....great speed, and boy would he stretch the field.

    I am not as familiar with corners but I hope BB and the gang seriously entertain that thought and continue to develop Devin and Patrick at saftey.....
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    Our best prospect of getting 2012 improvement from the draft is to draft a corner, and have McCourty play free safety. I suspect that Belichick would be fine going into the season with a safety group of Chung, McCourty, Ihedigbo and Barrett.

    We now have Arrington, Moore and Dowling at corner, plus the oh so replaceable Molden.

    So, Belichick has eight db's to start with. He can afford to draft the best defensive back he can find.

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    I think you need more experienced players here.. more rookie DB's will only add to this oft confused bunch.
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    Brandon Lloyd
    RFA Lardarius Webb
    Defensive coordinator

    Then work the draft to fill in the rest of the gaps.
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    Some tough decisions to make as they have quite a few free agents to pay and most of the excess in their cap number will be used up on re-signs.

    C-D. Koppen-I'm guessing a 1 or 2 year deal for Koppen, just as Light signed last year.

    OL-D. Connolly-They may not be able to keep him as he showed himself to be a good player around the league. If they re-sign koppen they may not be willing to match what Connolly can get elsewhere in a league with a big need for OL.

    RB-K. Faulk-I have to think he retires.

    RB-BJGE-It will depend on how high the rest of the league is willing to go. i think they really like him but won't go too high to keep him.

    WR-W. Welker-Tag and sign.

    WR-D. Branch-Vet minimum if he returns.

    DL-A. Carter- Returns at a reasonable price. Looking for the ring and loves NE.

    DL-S. Ellis-Retires

    DL-G. Warren-Just like this season he only comes to NE when they want him.

    DL-K. Love-RFA's and ERFA's rarely go anywhere, Love will be back.

    LB-G. Guyton- Goodbye

    DB-A. Molden, J. Ihedigbo, N. Jones etc.....small deals if any return. I expect movement in the defensive backfield.


    I'm sure I missed some but these are the ones in mind right now. I think they like most of their free agents but can't keep them all so there will be changes and it will be interesting to watch how they play it.



    I have some wishes in league free agency but it is so hard to tell who will really be available. I'm hoping Belichik responds to the 2011 season like he did 2006 and goes hard to put them oover the top for next year. he will never sell them out long term and knows he has to sign players like Gronkowski, Vollmer, and hernandez in the near future but they also hae the room and ability to go after some top players if they choose to. B. Lloyd would really help and so would D. Goldson but who knows if they come free, and players like C. Campbell will almost certainly be Tagged.

    Lloyd, C. Avril, Goldson are among those I would like to see them go after.
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    I'm not belittling Lloyd. I just don't think he'd be successful here. I think it'd be Ochocinco part two. Reggie Wayne I see being a much better fit as he's a better route runner and is a better red zone receiver.


    There's no need to put words in my mouth tbh, I'm sorry you're really angry that I'm critical of Josh McDaniels SB 42 performance. Yes, Brady connected on deep balls with them, I never said he wasn't capable of connecting on deep balls, I said he's had little to no success with deep ball receivers outside of Randy Moss. I wouldn't classify Givens or Patten as a "deep ball receiver".
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    I didn't put words in your mouth. I quoted your post:

    Sorry, but you're just clueless. I'll be ignoring you from here on out. It's going to be too long an offseason to waste time on someone who gets pretty much every post wrong.
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    This is ridiculous hyperbole.
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    Given that Brady actually won Super Bowls in years where he was using Patten and Givens as his downfield threats, it's not hyperbole at all.
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    Didn't realize Brady throwing to Patten and Givens won us those Super Bowls...:rolleyes:
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    Never claimed it was the reason for the wins. Read first, post second....
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    Mario Williams would be nice but can't imagine the Pats paying him what he will command on the open market.

    Calais Campbell may be a cheaper alternative. Any thoughts on him? He's listed at 6'8", 310 lbs. Had 8 sacks last year and he has the ability to block kicks. Also appears to be a solid citizen on and off the field. Not sure he would come east but I would hope the Pats at least kick the tires and give a look.

    The other spot the Pats really could use some help at on D is the safety spot. What a mess the safety play was this year, especially while Chung was out. Not much available on FA market. The aforementioned Branch is one option. What do people think about Michael Griffin from Tennessee?
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    It's being reported that the eagles will franchise desean Jackson and then shop him. He could be a moss like acquisition where you get him for a year and then go from there. He's the type of speedy playmaker they need. A couple of others I'd like to see them look at are cliff avril, who can stand up in a 3-4 and play in a 4-3, Brandon Carr and Early Doucet.
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    Wes Welker and Brandon Lloyd (or wide receiver du jour) will be higher priorities in unrestricted free agency.

    Franchise Tag

    Michael Griffin is overrated and inconsistent. 2012 NFL Draft for free safety needs.
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    Desean Jackson is a headcase with a bad attitude.

    The New England Patriots drafted Shawn Crable ahead of Cliff Avril in the 3rd round of the 2008 NFL Draft.

    Brandon Carr will most likely cost big bucks.

    I thought Early Doucet was a slot receiver?
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    Early Doucet? Besides being second or 3rd fiddle to Fitz, I don't know much about him. What makes you like him? What could he bring to the table here? (this is not sarcasm I am actually asking)
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    Doucet in addition to Jackson, they need more than one wideout. They need one gamechanger like DJax, Lloyd, Bows, Colston or VJax along with another solid receiver like doucet, cotchery, royal or josh Morgan.
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    so, you're going to pay malcontent d-jax franchise money and hope to sign him to a 100m contract?
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    They need a great corner like Carr and would come cheaper than grimes, Finnegan or even Carlos Rogers. The Patriots have the money to pay Carr and just because they drafted crable ahead of avril doesn't mean they won't go after him, avril is a different player now and is a cheaper alternative to the Mario Williams or Calais Campbell dream everyone wants.
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