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  1. Patters

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    There have been complaints about the photo of Musollini hanging by his feet.* I think a discussion is warranted. While I find the photo obscene, and would no more post it than I would post the voyeuristic photos from Abu Ghraib, such photos do express a lot.

    Certainly, in the 1990s, many conservatives drew attention to Clinton's misdeeds by educating children and countless others about various sexual acts and terms. Even the name "Slick Willy" has sexual connations. Whether you agreed with the conservatives or not, they felt it was necessary to subject even children to this kind of information because Clinton represented such a dangerous threat.

    In my view, powerful images should not be censored unless they represent a personal attack or an attack on persons based on their race, color, religion, age, gender, sexual preference, creed, etc. (which is the same as a personal attack).

    Do you think we should have a rule? Why? What should that rule be?

    * The photo can be found in this thread:

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=35263
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    #37 Jersey

    It does not bother me because if these morons who keep making the comparison between Nazi Germany/Socialist Italy and the current administration are just trying to fool themselves, when in all honesty their policies of the great social US are more in line with these monsters than they like.
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    There are pictures in the Internet of the Muslims carving off a Christian head, would it be OK if I post it on here, "please".
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    Patters, you've outdone yourself. The fact that you're incapable of making a decision shows your quality, or lack thereof, as a Moderator.

    1 - It's not a matter of Left or Right, but of common decency

    2 - You immediately attempt to compare the dead, rotting corpse to the Abu Graib photos? Nobody can reach that far

    3 - I should have guessed at all this ... Got to protect NEM, right?

    If this were a truly controlled forum, where registration required you to be over 18, then I could see a looser set of rules. But, it is not - this is a completely public and open forum.
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    The Liberal Democrats love the Abu Graib pictures, they love them because BUSH WAS PRESIDENT WHEN THEY WERE TAKEN, Pelosi said "she vomited" when she saw them, Uncle Teddy has copy's on his desk, none of these hateful sore losing scum had one word to say when the Muslim Dogs put a gun behind the ear of the SQUEALING SOBBING LITTLE ENGLISH WOMEN and blew her brains all over the TV Camera's on LIVE TELEVISION.

    THEY CONSTANTLY WHINE ABOUT THE DOG LEASH & THE LADIES UNDERWEAR ON THE MURDERERS HEAD OVER IN ABU GRAIB BUT WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAVE HEARD A LIBERAL CONDEM 9/11 OR THE PUBLIC BEHEADINGS.

    I am an EX Democrat, thank God.
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    I have only censored personal attacks that get out of hand or egregious attacks on a race. I don't think you can find an example where I have done otherwise. If you can, then you have a point. Otherwise, I follow the rules that we all agreed to awhile back.

    Also, with regard to Abu Ghraib, I'm surprised to find you suggesting that it's worse to post a picture of Benito Mussolini hanging by his feet than to show naked, tortured Iraqi prisoners. That's a pretty strange point of view. I would probably not post either type of photo, but I don't think it's something that the moderators should censor.

    If you disagree, can you devise a rule? Should the rule only include photos, or other types of expression, too, including words? Those are honest questions, Chevy.
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    Yes, thank God.
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    Have you ever wondered why the Liberal Media, the Knee Jerk do-gooders, the politically correct, and all those nasty hateful sore losing Democrats in the “Uncle Teddy Gang” get so upset over the pictures of convicted criminals in the Abba Dabba prison with ladies underwear on their head, (they call this, torture lol) yet, these same people will hardly ever mention the atrocities committed by our enemy, the people that wants us all dead, “the beheaders” “the suicide bombers” and of course the big one “9/11”. (do you ever hear Pelosi/Kennedy condemn 9/11)

    We have sexual crimes being committed dailey on little children right in our own country, we have Gangs beating each other half to death right on our own streets, we have murders being committed dailey on the streets of Washington DC, human beings heads have been carved off on live TV by the Muslim Terrorist Savages, Muslim Terrorist Savages strap bombs around their waists then walk into restaurants and blow up innocent women and children in Israel.
    All this and more goes on everyday all over the world and is hardly if ever mentioned by those Cowardly Hate Filled Liberal Democrat Swine in Washington.
    Those pictures of the murderer on a dog leash, well now, that’s a different story, “Oh Dear God” that poor man, I think I’m going to Vomit said “Skanky Pelosi”, Uncle Teddy the “Lady KILLER” was deeply disturbed over these photos (remember Mary Jo).

    Do you know why these Rotten B astards are so upset over Abba Dabba, it is because the HATED BUSH IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (HAIL THE CHIEF)
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    Chevy makes a valid point Patters. You're a moderator, MODERATE.


    If you feel they are offensive then remove them. If not, keep them up but apply that fairly across the board.

    Typical liberal, leading by polls.
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    #75 Jersey

    Once again we beat this dead horse!!!

    How many times, must we point out NEM's Nazi references? How many times do we have to point out that the Nazis and Mussolini's are more in line with the political leanings of Nancy Pelosi than GWB?

    I for one, am done defending NEM, have at him, I will no longer protect him for the well deserve wrath of the masses!
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    If I posted it not only the picture would be gone so would I.:bricks:
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    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49958

    Harry, you are correct. Tolerance is something that liberals like to say they are for, but in reality rarely practice. Case in point is the recent case at Ohio University where two gay professors charged the librarian with sexual harrassment for merely suggesting that the book "Marketing Of Evil" by David Kurpelian (sp?) be on the freshman required reading list. Among other things the book asserts, is that getting the acceptance of the militant gay agenda is a carefully orchestrated plan. I have read excerpts from the book and he has a strong case. Still, in a UNANIMOUS vote, all of the school's 21 faculty voted in favor of supporting the charge.

    Here is an institute of higher learning attempting to intimidate someone with an opposing view from daring to suggest that the students be exposed to a view that is contrary to politically correct thought. Apparently the expression of this idea was so heinous that it had to be killed hard and swiftly so that no one would dare challenge their point of view again.


    By the way, this story which caused the book to surge back to the top of Amazons sales list, cannot be found at my local Borders Books. Book stores have been notorious about not carrying books, or certainly not displaying them prominently, that espouse certain conservative ideas with which management disagrees. I wonder what is the case here?
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    If I owned the place the only bannable offenses or causes for editing would be actual crimes, hacking the site, and spam



    Oh and I'd require Harry Boy to make a reference to Ted Kennedy in every single post he made, just because it would be amusing to watch him figure out a way to get ol' Teddy into the other 3% of his posts.
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    Like the sore losers and Bush :singing:
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    #37 Jersey

    Socialism
    Abortions
    Sexual Perverts
    Hatred for the Rich
    High Taxes
    Death Tax
    Socialized Medicine
    Infanticide
    Euthanasia
    Acceptance of mind altering drugs.................

    Just some of the many similarities between the Nazi's and NEM's type.
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    #37 Jersey


    Sorry to say FTW is got you pegged 100%, maybe your mane should be Adolph from the desert instead of NEM.

    Come to think of it, Ed Shultz does sound a lot like Hitler in those speeches you see on the history channel, interesting, hmmm.

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    NEM is awfully fascinated with Nazis yet he tries to use "Fascism" in his comparisons of Bush while posting NAZI pictures.


    Sieg Heil Herr NEM
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    I think we all need to calm down. It's offensive to the dead and their relatives to compare Nazism to modern day America. How many of you have been tortured by the Police? How many of you have relatives in death camps? How many of you have had to whisper political opinions in public, wear a yellow star, fight in a war against your will or take part in mass executions? I have big issues with neo-conservatism but it is not Nazism. Nor is the moderate liberal slant of the Democratic Party, a Party which actually espouses fiscal conservatism (look at Clinton's presidency when spending was less than tax income), some social conservatism (many are anti gay marriage, pro religion and pro death penalty), military action and a tax burden which is broadly the same as the Republicans.

    Clearly, few of you has the first idea about National Socialism or you would stop accusing the other's side of being it. National Socialism was responsible for the death of at least six million people as a deliberate, pre-meditated, act of genocide. I don't include the people who died as a result of the Second World War. The philosophy is defined as being totalitarian or fascist. For want of a better term, it is "far right". The vast majority of Conservatives here in the UK understand that and don't think that their philosophy is being compared to fascism.

    It also isn't socialist. I can call myself a banana. Does that mean I'm ACTUALLY a banana? Why isn't it socialist? Well, socialist philosophy is "from each according to his ability to each according to his need". Businesses were NOT suppressed in Germany; firms made huge profits from slave labour and the war. Large elements of the population were given nothing in return for their free labour. That ISN'T socialism.

    National Socialism took elements of capitalism, and some socialism ,but mainly was a completely different doctrine of its own. It was much more than an economic doctrine, which was incidental to the main business of world domination.

    All people were not equal (if they were socialist, explain the need to exterminate huge numbers of people) nor were they free marketeers- again, people were denied the opportunity to participate in the market as a deliberate act of racism.

    Cheap jibes about Nazism dishonour the victims of Nazism and those of our ancestors who sacrificed our lives to stop them.
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    #75 Jersey

    NEM,
    Stop making an a ss out of yourself.
  20. Patters

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    Excellent post, Gomezcat. You're right that Nazi-ism had it's own short-lived doctrine, and to compare either liberals or conservatives to Nazis is wrong. Any similarities are purely coincidental.

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