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    How many real Muslim terrorists would dress up in obvious outfits that would draw attention at airports?....At he same time, looking the other way when you see suspicious behavior because of political correctness can cost lives(see Fort Hood). This incident went too far though when after she was cleared they still wouldn't let her on the plane and even singling her out to begin with might have gone to far....but I'm still debating that in my mind. Anyway it's always damned if you do but it only has to be damned if you don't just once. In this case though it's bad press for the airline and their over cautious behavior will cost them and make it harder for all airlines to conduct legitimate security checks.



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    There really isn't any easy way about it. I really do feel bad for innocent muslims who are affected by the insecurity people now feel as a result of 9/11. It must really be a pain in the you know what.
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    Basically, better safe then sorry. For her, it's probably only the tip of the iceberg. She probably gets harrased quite a bit.
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    So that makes it ok?
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    i say, "yes, it does make it ok". That is probably a bit harsh, but we cannot have another incedent like 9/11.
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    Yes. The attendent saw the scarf (profiling/yes) and heard "its a go". My take, better safe then sorry. I feel for the lady because I do believe she gets harrased for just walking down the street, and that is wrong.
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    I can sort of see initially why she was checked out but she was cleared to board only to be refused again because the crew on the plane still felt uncomfortable. The fear was unfounded but it was probably real and didn't necessarily arise out of so called "hate". The ironic thing is that a western dressed passenger with a real bomb wouldn't alarm anyone.
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    And that's the problem with putting all of your hate-eggs in one basket.

    The two women who have, in the past, really posed a bomb threat were blue eyed blonde American converts.

    Sans head scarves.
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    Depends. How does the western dressed passenger say "its a go" on the phone. It wasn't just that the Muslim was wearing a scarf, there was other circumstances. I know when I travel through an airport, I'm cautious of how I act and what I say.
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    Read the article. She didn't say that. What she said was, "I've got to go," which is entirely different and yeah, a "western dressed" woman would most likely say the same thing.

    What do you say when you've got to get off the phone?
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    "I've got to go" is what the Pakistan lady says how she ended the phone call. The attendant, thought she said, "its a go". Now, you can draw your inference from that. Maybe the flight attendant was bias, I don't know.
    My point is, I do believe profiling at airports is necessary, and that if the crew person thought that is what she heard, then she needed to take the precautionary steps.
    Honestly, if the crew person had heard "its' a go" from the western lady, it would have also caused at some concern, but not sure if the results would have been the same.
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    It's the type of situation where, if she were a terrorist and there was an incident, people would be screaming "OH MY GOD WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY DO ANYTHING!?!?"
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    I think hate is too strong a word but your examples prove the point. People are conditioned though through personal experience and real life examples. Sometimes those examples are exaggerated...if the same drum gets beat enough then you react accordingly. I hate to admit it but I do admit that in some areas I travel I'm weary of "gangster" looking people and that includes blacks. I don't hate black people but I'm profiling which can be bad but it may also save me. I'm quite sure that many blacks would have the same weariness if they found themselves in Dixieland walking by a bunch of white "cracker' looking dudes with confederate flag scarfs on. Do they hate white people or are they profiling and if they were wise to be weary might the profiling save them? Maybe.

    Now like it or not some recent history reveals that extremist Muslims have hijacked planes. It's been exaggerated, yes but everyone is aware of what happened and it makes them weary too. I wish it didn't bother me, I really do because the overwhelming odds are NOTHING will happen and it's all in my head...and as you point out its probably going to come from someone that doesn't "look" the part anyway. Still we worry and react. It's not hate though. Not from me anyway. Kinda of weird what scares us.
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    That's what she claimed she said.

    Also, the idea that she was targeted for her headscarf is speculation by the Muslim woman.
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    Come on, she was probably profiled which made it easy for them to connect their dots. I seriously think they would have heard it differently if were a western looking woman.
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