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    MSNBC reporter Ron Allens immediate reaction from the floor at RNC -

    Ron Allen: Her [Sarah Palin]resume is not something we’re familiar to seeing with candidates.

    Newt Gingrich: Well, it’s stronger than Barack Obama’s! I don’t know why you guys walk around saying this balony. She has a stronger resume than Obamas. She’s been a real mayor, he hasn’t. She’s been a real governor, he hasn’t. She’s been in charge of the Alaskan National Guard, he hasn’t. She was a whistle blower who defeated an incumbent mayor, he has never once shown that kind of courage.
    She’s a whistle blower who turned in the chairman of her own party and got him fined $12,000. I’ve never seen Obama do one thing like that. She took on the incumbent governor of her own party and beat him and then she beat a former democratic governor in the general election. I don’t know of a single thing Obama’s done except talk and write. And I’d like you to tell me one thing you think senator Obama’s done.
    Ron Allen: Thanks very much, Mr Speaker. I’m going to leave it there. I’m not going to argue the case. Thanks very much. :violent::rofl:
     
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    Wow, Gingrich defens Palin. What a surprise.
     
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    Well Mr Gingrich, Barak Obama's name is respected around the world. His recent speeches in Europe were attended by more people than ever appeared for George W Bush and they loved him everywhere he went. That my friend reflects an inate abilty to lead and that is what being president is all about. Now these are our allies....do you think they'd even know who Palin is?:D
     
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    Do you want to be like Europe? I know I don't. I could care less how popular he is there. Hell, a lot of people don't respect him here. I would worry more about getting elected here, than his popularity in socialist land.

    Bush is a freaking mensa member compared to "one trick pony" Obama.
     
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    Europe likes Obama because they know they can sh!t all over him and all he will do is "negotiate and slobber"
     
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    That's the point, all he has done is make some speeches. Oh, and who cares about Europe.
     
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    I didn't see it because MSNBC is watchable in just very small doses for me. I'm glad to see it was on that though, so some Democrats and Independents will have seen it. As opposed to useful stuff on Fox when mostly Republicans are watching.
     
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    If you really think like that, then you've got problems.
     
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    Heck, let's just ask Obam-uh (2 cents to you Clare!) himself:

    OMFG this guy is a moron without a teleprompter!

    uh...um...I'm running a campaign...uh...um...that's experience...ah...um....

    Look, McLame is no better, but I get a chuckle out of the people who fawn over this guy.
     
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    Maybe we should elect BO toast master, since he give a good speech but has no accomplishments inhis public life.....

    BO has never led in his life, never stood up to anyone as evidenced by sitting passively in the pew whil Rev Wright spewed his racist hate for 20+ years....
     
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    A speech proves the ability to lead? :singing:
    I'm sorry, but that is the most doltish statement I have ever heard on these boards. Folks, we have a winner!
     
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    Only when people follow you are you truly a leader. If they want to vote for you, you ARE a leader. Leadership isn't something people SAY you have, either you have it or you don't. Jesus was a leader because people wanted to hear everything he had to say (NO, I'm not comparing Obama to Jesus).

    If general Patton couldn't speak or motivate his men, NO ONE could have called him a leader....wtf!! I wonder what people think leadership is? It certainly isn't experience.
     
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    Usually the ability to lead manifests itself prior to running for the PResidency. BO has never done anything to prove he is a leader.
     
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    Now RW...that is a ridiculous statement with no meaning. How is it I think? A man or woman who can move people to act is a leader. That is a fact no matter what YOU think buddy. That is the problem with most Americans...we think voting is the only political act we're supposed to engage in.

    How many of us have ever participated in a campaign? I have several times.

    Here is the definition of leadership;

    The word leadership can refer to:

    1. Those entities that perform one or more acts of leading.
    2. The ability to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.
    3. Influencing a group of people to move towards its goal setting or goal achievement. (Stogdill 1950: 3)

    A leader is simply someone who has followers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership

    George W Bush is an example of a person who got voted into a position of leadership but turned out to have no leadership skills. The country sees him as a man full of sh1t.
     
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    Please, don't play semantics with me. This is what you said:

    We're talking about electing our president. What you're implying here is that because Obama gives a great speech, he'll make a great president. Afterall, according to your logic, "that's what being a great president is all about". I'm guessing that Hitler, Chavez, Jerry Falwell, etc would all make great presidents too. :rolleyes:
     
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    Ok, then smart guy...name one great American president who was NOT seen as a great speaker.

    Did you not read the definition of a leader I posted? It is someone who motivates people to act. I wasn't playing in the least. You know me better than that.

    Was Hitler great at leadership? Of course he freakn' was! How else did he motivate people to believe his crock? Of coures evil men have been great leaders...did you actually believe you had to be "good" to be a great leader RW? My whole contention is one thing and one thing only

    LEADERSHIP

    And leadership is.....

    1. Those entities that perform one or more acts of leading.
    2. The ability to affect human behavior so as to accomplish a mission.
    3. Influencing a group of people to move towards its goal setting or goal achievement. (Stogdill 1950: 3)

    A leader is simply someone who has followers.
     
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    Nice to have you disagreeing with me again BF! I mean that sincerely
     
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    Maybe you can't comprehend what the point is here. We're talking about electing a president. An individuals "speaking" ability is meaningless to their ability as POTUS. Think about what you're saying. If Hitler were alive today, and gave a great speech, I'm guessing you'd vote for him, since that would mean he'd be a great president.
     

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