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  1. PATRIOTSFANINPA

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    When Gostkowski went down with this injury we all took a deep gulp and wondered what will happen in critical situations and who will we sign?

    The answer was Shayne Graham who has been absolutely an awesome replacement going a perfect 12 for 12 on FGs

    My question is does Gostkowski and his injury give any possibility that he may have to work hard to get his job back from Shayne? or is it still his without question?

    Could be a wild competition at Kicker this offseason
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    Need to see how clutch Graham can be in the playoffs. Remember he missed key FGs against the Jets in the last playoffs.
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    The way this offense is going,Shayne may have the fewest attempts at FGs in the playoffs but the most attempts at extra points....hopefully that is the case :cool:
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    I hope you're right dude. I don't want a possible win or tie to fall on his leg.
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    I think it's Gostkowski's job to lose, especially considering the contract that we signed him to last year. Graham has been great, but Gost is our kicker going forward.
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    might be competition in camp, but either way, competition is good

    though i expect the ghost to be back for us next season
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    Didn't he miss an extra point?
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    He missed at least two.
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    Gost should get the job for his KOs alone.
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    Plus Ghost can hit touchbacks.
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    In his defense, the first miss was his first week with a new snapper and new holder and the second one was IIRC right after a pick 6 in brutal weather conditions...
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    I was just adding info, I'm not bashing the guy. He's done pretty well filling in, but he is no Ghost.
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    Can't believe its topic for debate, the job is 100% Gostkowski's, Graham makes me nervous
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    IF Graham has a good postseason, and IF Ghost completely recovers physically, then Graham is just auditioning for a job somewhere else for next year.

    He's got a great opportunity to shed the questions about high pressure kicks during these playoffs.
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    I'm not sure Graham will be play elsewhere next year. He's considered retiring before, his last year at Cincy, and has made mention of wanting to move back down south. Now, that's not to say he wouldn't resign if needed and the money is good. A lot will depend upon how well Ghost recovers from his injury, and gets back into kicking drills, etc.
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    as has been said before, unless Graham can kick off like Ghost, its not really much of a competition.
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    Graham isn't coming to camp, there's plenty of teams with bad kickers out there. Graham Gano is still in the league.
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    Playing in Cincy will have that effect on you. He's only 33, which is young by kicker standards when you consider the Andersens/Feagles played into their 40's....
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    Bingo. Graham will have his pick of employment next year, it just won't be with the Pats (contingent on Ghost's recovery, of course).
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    Ghost is in the same situation as all of our other IR'd players. We don't know what a single one of them will be next year and competition/contingencies will be in place all around...possibly including Graham who has been a welcome addition.
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    When he signed, contract terms were not disclosed so it could be a two year deal. In that case, they can bring him to camp, as you said to ensure Gost is healed and as another leg. They can always cut him at the end or maybe trade him and get a 7th rounder.... It's insurance and a win-win for Graham as some team will always be looking for a kicker and IF he can perform this post-season, all the better for him.
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    gost isn't that good. That's the sad thing. He's very iffy on FGs. Just flat out misses too many.

    Kickoffs he's good at. Big deal.
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    Ask BB how much of a big deal kickoffs are. :eek:
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    now I know we are setting the bar pretty high. his 84.3% career FG percent is 7th best all time. ( Graham is 3rd) per pro-football reference...FWIW I wouldn't trust Kaeding in the playoffs.....


    . Nate Kaeding (28) 86.500% 2004-2010 sdg .....
    2. Mike Vanderjagt 86.466% 1998-2006 2TM .....
    3. Shayne Graham (33) 85.950% 2001-2010 5TM .....
    4. Garrett Hartley (24) 85.714% 2008-2010 nor ....
    5. Rob Bironas (32) 85.561% 2005-2010 oti .....
    6. Robbie Gould (28) 85.484% 2005-2010 chi ....
    7. Stephen Gostkowski (26) 84.3%
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    That surprises me. I would guess that for a 40 yard FG, gost is about 60/40 tops to make it.
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    If Graham comes through in the clutch this postseason, I don't see why its not an open competition next year in camp, at least until Gostkowski proves that he has no residual effects of the injury whatsoever.

    Field goal accuracy (direct correlation to points) > touchbacks ( indirect correlation to points)
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    Its Gostkowski's job next season. Graham makes me nervous and while he has hit all FG, he's also missed at least one XP. Also, its not like he's kicking the tough FG. Only one from 40+ (a 41 yarder). Kinda reminds me of Gostkowski's first season when BB would not put too much pressure on him and have him only kick the easier ones. If we need a deep FG in the playoffs, I'm not sure that Graham is the guy you call on. I can easily see BB going for it on 4th and 4 from the opponents 32 rather than letting Graham try the FG.

    Plus, Gostkowski's kickoffs are much better.
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    They'll probably keep Graham around until they know that Gostkowski will be OK, but if they felt they could conceivably do better than the Ghost, I'm guessing they wouldn't have signed him to the richest ST contract ever offered by a sane owner. :)
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    Thanks for the great job to help us finish the season! Good luck wherever you go next season. Assuming there is a next season.

    Couldn't have asked for more. Ok, maybe a few longer kickoffs and not missing the XP, but the conditions sucked on both XP, so I'll let em slide.

    Seems at least someone was ready for the playoff game.
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    Shayne was a very nice fill-in. Assuming Gost gets back to form, though, he's a goner. The real loss was in kick-off distances, imo.
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