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  1. IcyPatriot

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    #87 Jersey

    My pet peeve ... Congress ... We need to discuss it more ... America needs to discuss it more. As i have been saying for some time now ... this (Congress) is the #1 enemy to productivity in this country.

    Yes I said that
    ... the 112th Congress should have been called the Honey Boo Boo Congress because they operated at 6 year old Alana's mentality. Kicking, screaming, taking the ball away so nobody could play.

    Yes ... I said that also ... prove me wrong. :nosmile:

    I'll kick off this thread with this bit ...
    no direction here ... anything related to the Congress topic is welcome in this thread.

    Congress to make history -- but for the wrong reason - First Read

    If I had more time i would factor in how much pro rated it cost to elected each member of Congress to the 112th + their salary/benefits/staff costs ... then divide that number by the 196 bills to see how much it cost us for each bill. That number would be awesome to know ... a very big number for sure.
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    The number of bills passed into law by Congress since 1947:
    80th: 906
    81st: 921
    82nd: 594
    83rd: 781
    84th: 1,028
    85th: 936
    86th: 800
    87th: 885
    88th: 666
    89th: 810
    90th: 640
    91st: 695
    92nd: 607
    93rd: 649
    94th: 588
    95th: 634
    96th: 613
    97th: 473
    98th: 623
    99th: 664
    100th: 713
    101st: 650
    102nd: 590
    103rd: 465
    104th: 333
    105th: 394
    106th: 580
    107th: 377
    108th: 498
    109th: 482
    110th: 460
    111th: 383
    112th: 196 (so far)
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    I see a downward trend. Could be because of two things - less need for laws and greater powers from executive branches and agencies whose decisions dont derive from congressional law.
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    curious... do you think the rate of new laws should be infinite and perpetual?
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    Read the other day that Wall Street and Big Banks are fighting the appointment of Elizabeth Warren to the Banking Committee... when did they get a voice on who gives oversight to their greed???

    Saw something else that indicated that a congressman or woman has to spend 4 hours per day fundraising for the next election...

    And of course there is the lobbying influence..

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    Scum Of Gods Green Earth, Vile Verman Swine People, Never Allow A Politician To Enter Your Home Or Pat Your Dog, Avoid Eye Contact With Them At All Costs.

    Vipers
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    Heard a newly elected Florida Congressman, whose campaign promise was that if reelected he would serve no more than two terms...

    Refreshing..
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    The reason is the reverse of your second reason, above.

    What little has been done in the last 2 years has had to be the executive branch acting on its own in the absence of any understanding of governance on the congressional side.

    The goal for the last two years has been explicitly "to make Obama a one-term president." The pubbies in Congress have seen their role as an adjunct to the executive electoral process, and said so.

    No wonder nothing came out of this congress.

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    #87 Jersey


    well i don't think that and to be honest i have no clue as to what a normal number should be right now. But i do know we have a ton of issues and they have been sitting on their hands too much. Word is they are afraid to do anything that can be used against them. Well ... then perhaps you should not have run in the first place. The men who wrote our Constitution were not afraid to be bold ... and it's the time to be bold.

    I would rather see executive orders go down and congressional bills go up ... with debates on the floor and the media reporting on it all.

    You think this Congress has been doing it's job?
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    I wonder what the number would be if you subtract out the symbolic resolutions, namings-of-post-offices-you-hope-to-close, and the like.
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    Remember when Presidents would veto a bill.

    Seriously those were always up to opinion but at least it was our country working the way it was intended to work.

    Obama has vetoed 2 bills

    Bush 2= 12

    Clinton = 37

    Bush 1 = 44

    Reagan = 15

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes#George_H._W._Bush
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    Nobody pays attention to campaign promises politicians start lying as soon as they learn how to talk, if he quits when his second term is up he should be put into Ripleys Believe It Or Not.
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    Wow. Heck of a stat there, Icy.

    I think it reflects how polarized we are, with the Senate and House in different parties' hands. So they can never report out a bill together. Instead of executive versus congressional opinion on various matters, it's house against senate -- anything the current House can agree on, the present Senate can't. And if they do, it probably means the president will sign it too. He doesn't take a lot of high-minded moral stands when he can get some of what he wants.
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    Heard an interesting story this morning, that the brouhaha about Susan Rice has less to with her, as they all want John Kerry. Why do they want Kerry?? Because they want to reelect Scott Brown in Kerry's seat...

    It is all much ado about nothing..

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